No place like Taiwan for offshore wind power?

Heck, if people want to store the waste in Taipei, then I am all for more nuclear. reap what you sow type situation. But it is 100% safe, so no worries Taipei. I say go for it! Literally no sarcasm.

I say the same with garbage. you make it, you store it or deal with it. it forces efficiency. It is a disgrace, however, when things arent safe or healthy and one group gives another group health risks. as a pure number game without ethics, it is logical to fuck 100,000 people instead of a few million. However, this retarded mindset only impedes improvement and slows progress. if we live in our own shit, shit is turned to gold pretty much over night. by way of “miracles” lol. fancy that.

hence the issues, it’s about selfishness and greed, not about science. once that changes, I am pro nuclear.

Nuclear plant 3 and 4 could be great locations for geothermal plants, since they sit on the north end of the Datun volcano.

I have an idea to help store Taiwan’s radioactive waste!

Keep it in Kinmen, when the Chinese invade, catapult it at buildings in Xiamen!

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Like I’ve mentioned many times before, I’m not against all nuclear energy, I’m just against uranium/plutonium based fission since Taiwan’s geology is unsuited to guarantee both the safety of that kind of nuclear plant as well as spent fuel and waste storage.

I was questioning the 10B NTD number as having any relevance in discussing this subject.
Taiwan basically dropped the ball and went with German path of destroying the Earth by burning coal while slowly building wind power.
I was always curious, how long will it take for customers of Taiwan’s exports to start questioning the carbon footprint.
Well, the pressure is rising.

TSMC Signs 1.2GW Wind Power Agreement As Part Of Renewables Push.

Again, not accounting for costs after energy production.

Like, for example, carbon emissions induced climate change destroying ecosystem, air pollution killing people or coal ash containing more radioactivity than nuclear waste.

BTW China has 6GW nuclear power plant (Fuqing, 6 reactors) 200km from Taipei. It is strategically located at the coast. For the tsunami safety reasons, I’m sure.

Unless you start digging in them?

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It’s awesome to have steel drums holding your high-level waste in the deserts of California, Nevada, or even along the Mediterranean where the weather is nice and dry. Not so great when it’s stored right on the coast of Taiwan.

Correct, in cycles of approximately 3 minutes I believe.

You do understand what a natural nuclear reactor is, right?

It’s weird getting a reply on a post that’s a half-decade old.

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Can they drill deep enough to make it worthwhile though?

little known fact. Taiwans government has more, and spends more, money than TSMC and could be doing better since basically post jailing journalists.

no excuses, only band aids now

Judging by all the hotspring hotels in Jinshan, I don’t think you need to drill all that deep.

I have no idea how fast it gets how hot, but it needs to be pretty hot to get good efficiency. Over 373° C is ideal. One duel well costs about 10 million to dig with a 20% failure rate, but that’s peanuts compared to nuclear. Lots of engineering problems to overcome before it can be used in places without obvious signs like hot springs. But Taiwan has money and not at least trying a few test wells there would be stupid.

The image you posted clearly shows that 149°C is perfectly fine for binary cycle geothermal power plants.

It works of course, but all things being equal you’ll get more than 10x the power with supercritical water. You can use much less space and get much more power by getting deep.

It just means if a site might be suitable, it’s not going to be a total loss even if you don’t get 373°C after drilling 4KM down.

Yes, but it’s also 25,000 vs 250,000 homes or more. I’m inclined to shoot for the latter, but I also believe we’re not at some critical tipping point with emissions and global warming. YMMV

Hongye geothermal plant still drilling to find its niche.

Can we make energy out of this too?