Orgy/threesome vs. affairs

A male friend and I talked about orgy or threesome the other day. He thinks since monogamy is not natural to men, and since seeking affairs outside a long-time relationship may lead to relationship breakup, orgy or threesome may be a good solution to spice up a long-so-easily-dull monogamous relationship, especially for the female side if she doesn’t want her bf/husband to fall in love with someone else through affairs. But I think he’s just trying to justify a man’s fantasy for orgy/threesome.

What do you all think? Is orgy/threesome pretty much most men’s fantasy? And girls, will you do it if your bf/husband asks you to do threesome because you think it’s better than him seeking affairs behind you?

Everybody knows women are naturally bisexual. :smiley: :wink:

stepbystepthreesome.com/bisexual.htm

A friend of a friend’s threesome went wrong. Her husband and the other woman decided they didn’t need her after all. Playing with fire, imo.

[quote]But I think he’s just trying to justify a man’s fantasy for orgy/threesome.
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Bingo!

I suggested this to my fiancee and she flipped out. I’d want to try but figure she’d be jealous. Thank god for “skinternet”.

Guys (you know whom :laughing: ), don’t ruin this thread. I’m really curious about this. I mean, when I think of threesome, it seems to be a kind of non-mainstream sexual preference and not many people or couples would really want or try it (even in the western world). And even though there are many men (I suppose) who are into this idea, they don’t really try hard to turn this fantasy into reality. But my friend seems serious. I hope he can really try it one day (or maybe he already has!). Anyway our discussion makes me wonder if this threesome thing is actually more accepted in the “western” world and has been tried by many people. And for those guys who have tried or have thought about trying threesome, do they mind going for a two-guys-one-girl threesome? And for girls, will they do it just because their BFs want to try it, or they do it because girls themselves want to try and think it a lot of fun too? I could have posted this on Women Only, but I would like to hear accounts from both men and women. I’m not asking for juicy details here, I just want to know how people think of or react to threesome, and are there good or bad consequences about it on a relationship if both the parties in a relationship want it? Consider this as an informal and casual social survey!!

Personally I don’t want to try it at all, but who knows, people change over time. :laughing: Seriously, sex is between the two people; isn’t it pathetic if you need a third person on bed to spice up your relationship? But I may be naive.

Sorry if this thread sounds silly. I have many silly thoughts in my head, and sometimes I just have to let some of them out to clear my head up.
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I have a female friend in the US who is well into threesomes with her common law husband of 15+ years. However, she’s bisexual and likes a bit of strange pussy herself. Also, when they’ve done it with friends of theirs, things got weird. She says it works better with relative strangers.

Women should try asking their bf/husband to ask their male friends to have threesomes with them and see what kind of reaction they’d get!! :smiley:
Ever do it with your buddy and your woman, blueface? Of course you haven’t. :unamused:

“Swinging” sounds more fair to me. Or threesomes only with those you’re NOT in a relationship with.

[quote]Women should try asking their bf/husband to ask their male friends to have threesomes with them and see what kind of reaction they’d get!! :smiley:
Ever do it with your buddy and your woman, blueface? Of course you haven’t. :unamused:[/quote]

I was thinking the same thing, Alien. I can see this as being such a one-sided thing for straight guys. “Let’s have a 3-some, honey! Go find one of your female friends to join us.” But, what does the women (unless she happens to be bi) get out of it? Contrary to straight male fantasy and porno movies, I doubt the majority of women want to have sex with other women. Though, I’m sure straight women are more willing to “do it” than a straight guy would be willing to have sex with another guy, being less skittish about admitting they can be sexually attracted to a member of the same-sex.

In a straight relationship, unless one partner is bi, there is always a sense of unfairness in a three-some. The person who shares the sex of the third person is probably not going to enjoy the situation as much. In a gay relationship you don’t have this problem. Maybe a 4-some, with another couple, would be better?!?!?

Though, over all I think an type of extra-marital/relationship sex can cause problems. Do both partners really want to engage in the behavior? Or, for example, iis one partner doing it because he/she is afraid of losing their partner if they don’t? Do both partners find the extra(s) attractive? Are both partners really enjoying the experience?

This may be “just about sex,” but how do you keep from developing feelings for the extra(s)? How do you stop jealousy from developing after seeing your partner/husband/wife/etc… with someone else? We may say it won’t be a problem, but I’ve known couples where it has turned into a problem.

As for the issue of monogomy not being “natural for men,” I’ve stated my opinion about that before. I think, ultimately, that is a load of bunk. It may be harder for men, based on one aspect of their biology, but it is not “unnatural.” Please remember that monogomy, by definition, is not the having of a single, life-long partner. Rather, it is the having of a single partner at one time. (Partner here being defined as someone you are in an extended relationship with - be it 3 weeks or 30 years – not a one-night stand partner).

So, even the biological argument that men "need’ to spread their “seed” to as many women as possible doesn’t make being faithful to your current partner unnatural. It just means that men are more likely to want multiple (exclusive) partners in their lifetime, than women. Even so, men as intelligent (no snide comments, ladies :wink:) beings can choose to go against their biological urge and commit to one partner for a life-time, if they want to.

Kudos to anyone who does it. Me, I’ll have my fatansies and that’s it. We want what we can’t have.

What I think:

For couples committed to each other, I believe a threesome or moresome is better than an affair. In a threesome or moresome, assuming both partners of the couple are in agreement re the added participant/s, then there should be no problem… as there is no breach of trust.

Conversely, an affair is a breach of trust.

I think it obvious that most men are able to rationalize a separation of sex and love, at least better able to do so than most women.

If you love someone enough to commit to him/her, then you should respect his/her desire to have a closed relationship. If both agree to have an open relationship, that is, if both agree that sex and love are not inseparable, then there is no problem…

What’s all this implying that multiple guys and one girl moresomes definitely involves male bisexuality? Never heard of a train?

I don’t think two guys and a girl imply bisexuality on the part of the guys. I just think that girls are probably more willing to “do it” with another girl present (which again, doesn’t make them bi, just more comfortable with their sexuality and not worried what people will think).

Most straight guys I’ve met would be horrified to even entertain the idea of having sex with another guy (even indirectly, as in you do her first than I do her). They’d be too afraid of not only “bumping elbows” but finding out that they actually find something (anything) to do with the other guy sexual exciting. Like that will make them gay. :unamused:

It’s like that whole gay sex thread that turned into the anal sex thread. Some guys, even straight guys, like getting it up the arse. That doesn’t necessarily make you gay, or even bi.

To quote Margaret Cho, discussing questioning her sexuality after having sex with a woman: “Am I gay? Am I straight? Am I bi? NO… I’m just a slut! Where’s my parade?”

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Regarding two women and a man vs. two men and a woman, there’s probably a master’s thesis in a cross-cultural study of the matter as depicted in pornography. In the ratio of MMF to FFM scenes, how would made-in-the-USA skin-flicks compare to, say, Japanese porn? Italian porn? Russian porn? I’d be willing to bet there are considerable differences. What would these diffences indicate about attitudes in the respective societies?

This would be interesting. I’m serious. Sometimes you can take the boy out of the grad school, but you can’t take the grad school out of the boy.

Sorry I got in late on this one.

I’ve done 3 some once but it was more for my bf than myself, yes, as you can guess it, it involved 2 girls and him. It was one of his fantasy and I granted him the fantasy on his b-day. We both knew the girl therefore it was a bit easy. Well, he liked it of course, I didn’t. (haha, I wonder why)

After that, every time I wanted to have a threesome (meaning 2 boys and moi) he had refused my request. Why?? Because I think he was afraid that the guy might be better than him in bed… go figure. :unamused:

The point is that I do 3some only to fulfill my fantasy and that’s about it. AT least I can said, been there, done that, right?! But I am pretty selfish, so I rather have the good time all to myself…

Tiger… You crack me up… Choo Choo :slight_smile:

I think that x/somes may be a more open way of exploring with your spouse, but I wonder if as QM says that one party may be pressured into it-if in fact it is fair.

I was talking with some good friends this weekend and somehow the topic of affairs or open relationships came up and the general consensus was the amount of red tape involved is way too much work… all of the rules involved in open relationships… which I would think most would need to be applied in an x/some.

Not in my house, only with someone I approve of, only with advance notice, no more than x relationships per year, never more than x months in duration, never with too close a friend… yadda yadda yadda…

Did anyone see that 6 feet under where Brenda’s mom spied on her spouse because while they had an open marriage, he was breaking the rules…

Not my cuppa-

I’d like to know what happened to all the other posts here. Not the ones that went to the feedback forum either.
Why was this thread ‘cleaned’ up. Some of the posts were really funny! Geez! Get a grip! Bowdlerisation! Grrrrr…
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Sharky,
Rules suck. Best to just cheat and not tell.

Too bad that the mod(s) decide to cut all the posts after 4:08 pm yesterday. In my conservative-enough mind, none of all the posts removed is provoking or offensive enough for the mod(s) to make this aggressive move. Some of them are really intriguing and interesting instead. I’m a bit surprised that sex, even in controlled manners and discussion range, is still more or less a taboo in a foreigner-dominated public forum. Hum, Culture 101.

I agree. They stuck all the juicy stuff in the flounder forum. Strange. I thought that was for the dead topics. Bad call mods. Too much censorship. :no-no:

Edit: I just realized the mods split 3 new threads off of this one:

“nudge, nudge, wink, wink”

“Wayyyy too much info”

“a disgrace to this forum”

If your tactic is to wipe out this thread by dispersing its dirty parts, we can always add new dirt. :smiling_imp:

If my bf/husband asked me to do a threesome, I’d respond:

“Sure honey. Sex with you is getting boring. Which male friend of yours would you like me to sleep with in front of you? So and so’s kind of cute…no wait! There’s a really hot guy at the gym who’s been checking me out recently. I bet he’d be game…”

But you’re just being facetious, aren’t you Erhu? If he said, “Scott would be fine,” would you go ahead with a threesome? And I assumed your husband would participate as well, but if you guys want for him to just watch that’s fine too. Would you do it?

It is funny how it only seems to work in one direction (so to speak, I think). It might be better than having an affair, but I think the person to whom it would suggested might feel a bit let down that his or her partner was thinking of having someone else. Personally, with a girl, I wouldn’t be able to share the man and with another guy, good luck trying to convince him.