Over 70 dead in Spanish train crash

guardian.co.uk/world/2013/ju … crash-dead

Train derailed , reportedly going double the speed limit in a curve. Over 70 dead. Completely irresponsible of the train driver, if he was the cause of the overspeed.

“That accident may have been caused by a loose steel plate at a junction, French train operator SNCF said.”

Terrible

Number on dead on the rise: 77 as to latest figure. Approximately 218 passengers.

Train may have been making up for lost time because it was five minutes late and reportedly was going twice the speed limit on that curve. That is probably the reason it derailed.

Actually, more than 3 times the normal speed, as per Spanish newspapers.

gee, totally irresponsible.

Mmm, I wouldn’t discard mechanical failure. Heck if those drivers would care to make up for 5 minutes, those trains run late as per SOP, especially on festival day. BTW, all festivities were cancelled because of the tragedy.

Passengers report a sudden lurch, then the collapse of cars one of top of the other, and followed by fire.

Moment of crash impact filmed by sidetrack camera.

Sure looks like overspeed to me. And the two drivers responsible didn’t get a scratch.

Three drivers, Tommy, as per Spanish newspapers. And one still in the hospital.

One of them did radio the station and told them his speed was 180… right before the crash.

There are some interesting details about the curve:
It is one of the portions of the high speed rail that uses the old tracks, not new ones, as the Government did not want to expropriate more land in a heavily urbanized area. These original tracks date to the Franco era. As a result, they do not have the modern systems that other modern sections of the railroad have which impede over speeding. Nor is that part of the track under the European Rail Traffic Management System, like the route to Barcelona, which would have also more controls. It did have an Automatic Braking System, but not continuously.

Other drivers from the same line state that it is necessary to brake manually when they reach that curve. Normally, the train has to decelerate in a short span of time and space from 200 to 80 kms/h.

Anyways, everything that happened in that cabin is recorded so the results of the investigation will come out pretty soon.

[quote=“Icon”]Other drivers from the same line state that it is necessary to brake manually when they reach that curve. Normally, the train has to decelerate in a short span of time and space from 200 to 80 kms/h.

Anyways, everything that happened in that cabin is supposedly recorded so the results of the investigation will be covered up and blamed on the EU.[/quote]
Fixed that for you. :wink:

These are the Spanish we are talking about.