Overseas bride's husband dies, cannot return home?

I read in the paper the other day about a Thai girl who had married a Taiwanese man and had a child with him. The husband either cheated on her (got a divorce) or he died.
She had already got the ROC passport and forfeited her Thai passport, however since there was no longer any reason for her and her child to stay in Taiwan, she wanted to return to Thailand, but since she was no longer a citizen there she wasn’t allowed to.

If the girl above didn’t apply for a ROC passport and kept her Thai nationality and stayed here on an ARC. After a divorce or death of her husband she would have to leave the country when the ARC expires (which might or might not be convenient time). Also she would have no rights here.

I think that Taiwan government force us foreigners to give up our current nationalities to prove that we love Taiwan… but in this case, this poor Thai girl didn’t love Taiwan, she loved her husband. Without him she rather go back to her family.
The Taiwan law thus forces her to stay here against her will, is that fair?

We need to push the government to treat everyone equal! We (who reach certain criteria, like the PARC) should be able to apply for ID card and passport.

Peian, many countries allow you to regain your nationality after forfeiting it. Australia is on such country.

Does anyone know if the US is such a country?

Sweden also allows you to regain it, but only after three years and I need to live there for three years. I will be treated like a Taiwanese person there…

It might not be so easy to regain ones original citizenship in all countries.

If it is that easy, why do they Taiwanese law even ask us to forfeit it???

No.

If you are of “Chinese blood” you can keep your foreign nationality and get Taiwan nationality too . . . . there is no question of your loyalty to the ancestors.

However, if you are a foreigner first, then you must renounce your original nationality, so that you can prove your loyalty to the ancestors of the nation. (I believe this is the true rationale . . . . )

Two Americans; one is white one is 0.78% Chinese (7th generation Chinese), why would the 0.78% Chinese beyond a reason of doubt be any more loyal to his ancestors???

There are people killing their parents (Chinese as well as foreigners), so an argument that Chinese people are by default more loyal to their ancestors is totally flawed.

I say down with the apartheid practiced by the Taiwan government, treat everyone equally!!! :fume:

Anyhow I’m still trying to find out if I’m 0.78% or more Chinese… if not I will try to get the needed percentage somehow… any help? :help:

As I understand it, Hartzell is just offering you the Ministry of Interior’s point of view. If you want to argue, go see the MOI.

More power to you.

ludahai asked:

"amos wrote:
Peian, many countries allow you to regain your nationality after forfeiting it. Australia is on such country.

Does anyone know if the US is such a country?"

Yes. Famous example: Lee Harvey Oswald. Renounced and regained.

OOC

[quote=“OutofChaos”]ludahai asked:

"amos wrote:
Peian, many countries allow you to regain your nationality after forfeiting it. Australia is on such country.

Does anyone know if the US is such a country?"

Yes. Famous example: Lee Harvey Oswald. Renounced and regained.

OOC[/quote]

So Poagao could get his back then? :slight_smile:

Why did Poagao give it up in the first place?!?

When you make decisions about changing nationality then you must understand as to wether or not you may regain your original nationality.

Some people do it on a whim but I did it for more warped reasons hehehe

But in anycase don’t tek these desicions lightly. If her husband died she would have been asked to leave and she may not have wanted that either.

I took out ROC nationality because I want to stay and do what I like without the need for visas or ARC’s. Death is a part of life which most people don’t prepare for.

If my wife dies I don’t have to leave, and after nearly 16 years here I don’t want to start life all over again in another country.