Guys, you need to get a grip. My grandpa took 4 or 5 helmetless grandkids on his Yamaha 750 up and down main street of Winkler, Manitoba. We hung by our knees from the branches of tall oak trees. We galloped horses bareback. We played lawn darts. We went cliff-diving at the rock quarry. We rode inner tubes down white water rivers. We built tree houses. We drove cars and rode BIG motorcycles when we were 16 years old. We rode bicycles without helmets. We swam in the deep end. We did belly flops off of diving boards. We armored ourselves with hockey pads and played war with pellet guns. We “skiied” on snow-covered streets behind city buses in our kodiak workboots. We learned how to skateboard at high speeds. We built ramps for our bicycles and jumped creeks. We rode snowmobiles. We learned how to ride Yamaha YZ80s at insane speeds when we were 10.
Some of us died. Most of us didn’t. I would never let my kid ride without a helmet, but my responsibility ends there. If anyone tried to tell my kid that I didn’t love them because I let them go cliff-diving or climb trees or swim during ghost month, I’d tell them to go to hell. :eh:[/quote]
Did you smoke, take drugs, practice unsafe sex? Would you let your kids do that? Probably not, which indicates you have standards. Would you let your kid ride around in Taiwan traffic at the age of 10 on a Yamaha YZ80 at insame speeds? No, because its not the same as buggering around in soft fields and forests. I had a bike when I was ten and blasted around at insane speeds. My parents even bought the bike for me. My dad however won’t even get on my bike in Taiwan as he reckons its too dangerous.
Children on motorcycles who can’t choose for themselves, don’t understand the dangers, can’t appreciate what suffering an incident might be like and don’t have the strecgth to guarantee a good hold should not be on motorcycles!
Another way of putting it would be is if you as a parent suffered a serious accident on a motorcycle not even by your own fault, but which caused injury to your child or even death, could you continue to live with yourself comfortably? If the answer is still yes, then I have nothing more to say.