Pentagon loses again!

[quote]Pentagon Agrees to Warn Bases Against Sponsoring Boy Scout Troops

CHICAGO (AP) - The Pentagon has agreed to warn military bases worldwide not to directly sponsor Boy Scout troops, partially resolving claims that the government has engaged in religious discrimination by supporting a group that requires members to believe in God.

Civil liberties advocates have set their sights on the organization’s policies because the group bans openly gay scout leaders and compels members to swear an oath of duty to God. The ACLU believes that direct government sponsorship of such a program amounts to discrimination.

“If our Constitution’s promise of religious liberty is to be a reality, the government should not be administering religious oaths or discriminating based on religious beliefs,” said ACLU attorney Adam Schwartz.[/quote]

This is the ACLU that supports NAMBLA (North American Man/Boy Love Association).

[quote]ACLU to Defend NAMBLA

BOSTON – The American Civil Liberties Union will represent a group that advocates sex between men and boys in a lawsuit brought by the family of a slain 10-year-old.

The family of Jeffrey Curley of Cambridge said the North American Man/Boy Love Association and its web site which is now off-line incited the attempted molestation and murder of the boy on Oct. 1, 1997.

Harvey Silverglate, an ACLU board member, said Wednesday that the group’s attorneys will try to block any attempt by the Curleys to get NAMBLA’s membership lists, or other materials identifying members.

The ACLU also will act as a surrogate for NAMBLA, allowing its members to defend themselves in court while remaining anonymous.

According to the Globe, NAMBLA officials in the past have said their main goal is the abolition of age-of-consent laws that classify sex with children as rape.

At two separate trials last year, prosecutors said Jaynes and Sicari were sexually obsessed with the boy, lured him from his Cambridge neighborhood with the promise of a new bike, and then smothered him with a gasoline-soaked rag when he resisted their sexual advances. They then stuffed him into a concrete-filled container and dumped it into a Maine river.[/quote] … nambla.htm

The ACLU and NAMBLA. Two truly worthy organizations.

The justice system in America is the one that will decide. The ACLU simply represents disadvantaged people in the courts. You could just as easily condemn the US Justice system for allowing blatant punishment of God-fearing Boy Scouts.

I do not support NAMBLA’s views. The ACLU does not support NAMBLA’s views. The ACLU is providing legal representation for NAMBLA. The NAMBLA case will still go to court and NAMBLA will have to undergo the scrutiny of the US Justice system. If we draw the line and say NAMBLA should be denied constitutional rights, where are we going to draw the line next? We will censor and prohibit communists or socialists from meeting because their viewpoint is abberant. Next, the Christian majority will surely stop freedoms of religion. We will not let any organizations that do allow homos into military bases.

If the USA wanted to prosecute and destroy all traces of socialism in America, would there be any society that defended the rights of socialists? The ACLU would do that. The ACLU does not want to promote NAMBLA’s ideals, what it wants to do is ensure that no group of people is denied fundamental rights under the Constitution.

Exactly, twocs :notworthy: . For an American who believes in the Constitution and Bill of Rights to criticize the ACLU, an organization defending the underprivileged, is hypocritical. Every person or group is guaranteed the right to an attorney, and to criticize a lawyer or legal entity that defends an organization you dislike is basically to reject the legal system. What’s your preference, for certain groups you don’t like to simply be executed? You should have moved to Saddam’s Iraq. I hate the KKK :fume: , but I acknowledge their right to legal representation. I can’t stand Rush Limbaugh, but even an idiot like that has the right to express his ridiculous notions however destructive and divisive they are.

Forward Thinking Comrade -

My mil groups always affiliated with the BSA and usually their Explorer Scout candidates in our area. Rangers and Scouting are a natural match.

Fuck the ACLU and the horse they decided was appropriate for them and their supporter to know in a carnal manner.

It behooves all to do research on the ACLU and the individuals who founded this organization. And their motives in doing so.

The BSA is basically a paramilitary organization much like Hitler’s Nazi Youth. I remember when I was a scout the oaths you had to give, and I always chafed at promising that I had to “do my duty to God.” This was also known as being ‘reverent,’ but you also had to be ‘clean’ and ‘thrifty.’ I had flaws as a scout, serious flaws. I was banned from the scouts for throwing a can of tuna fish in the campfire; it exploded, and in the process I was disgraced, not even having achieved my BeeKeeping or RabbitRaising badges yet. I got my revenge when I met Eagle Scouts in high school and college and realized they had a bad sex life.

Check out the history of the ACLU: As a litigant in virtually every important Supreme Court case involving civil liberties, the ACLU has been central to the development of democratic ideals in America.

The ACLU has been active for over 80 years to ensure that minority rights aren’t violated. The ACLU would help the residents of this condo if the Chinese government decided to take them to court:

According to an article from the New York Post, China decided to throw a hissy fit over residents of a Salt Lake City condo hanging the flag of Taiwan, along with the flags of 90 nations off their balconies. Apparently, the silly Chinese government doesn’t understand that our citizens actually have rights.

Twice, officials from the Chinese Embassy in Washington asked the residents to take the flag down, arguing that China and the International Olympic Committee don't recognize Taiwan as a nation. And twice, residents like Annette Mower told them to go jump.

Yes, the Chinese actually had to be told twice to “Go to hell.”[/quote]

“The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one’s time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all.”

– H. L. Mencken