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30,000 people turned up to ask CSB to resign.
Seems like the pressure is mounting for CSB to leave.
Another reason for CSB to resign is that I need to change my forumosa avatar.
That’s not very many, you could easily get twice as many to demostrate against Soong.
Please refresh my memory: A-bian is guilty of what exactly?
Letting his daughter marry a greedy dipshit. So far that’s it.
Yeah and that the Greedy Dipshit’s dad was a former KMT official also known for being a Greedy punk, except with Tax Payer Money!
While were here, I agree with AC Dropout in the aspect that all convicted KMT officials fleeing their jail sentences should report to jail immediately, and men like Soong and Lien who have been known to embezzle tax payer money to pay for houses and what not should renounce their membership to their parties. Especially Lien’s son who has inherited much of this dirty money.
oh my, off with his head 
oh my, off with his head [/quote]
Its a big mistake. Roosevelt wouldn’t have let a hypothetical daughter marry a hypothetical son of a Nazi. But then what choice did President Chen have in letting his adult daughter marry the apparent son of a known corrupt KMT official? Her daughter made her decision as an adult.
I don’t think Roosevelt had too much control over his sons and daughters and their marriages. One son married five times.
However, considering the role that family and money plays in Chinese marriages, I think if CSB had objected to this marriage, his daughter probably would have reconsidered. In my opinion, they blessed both the marriage and the stock deals. 
I don’t think the son-in-law could have accessed the original investment money without family approval or have kept such an important investment mum (quiet) for all this time.
I’m sure the story will unfold eventually, and I am really hoping CSB had nothing to do with all of this. But the dipshit son-in-law had his hands in many pies. He was using his position to accept bribes to get people jobs. He was getting houses at 60% of market value and reselling them. And doctors make a minimum of 180 000 NT, and that’s before red envelopes are counted. I don’t think he would have any trouble coming up with the cash on his own.
I don’t think Roosevelt had too much control over his sons and daughters and their marriages. One son married five times.
However, considering the role that family and money plays in Chinese marriages, I think if CSB had objected to this marriage, his daughter probably would have reconsidered. In my opinion, they blessed both the marriage and the stock deals. I don’t think the son-in-law could have accessed the original investment money without family approval or have kept such an important investment mum (quiet) for all this time.[/quote]
Okay, you don’t think it, but do you have evidence for what you are saying??
Didn’t we have a particular member here in Forumosa famous for thinking something, going out saying it on TV, and then all of a sudden having to lay low? hrm…
CSB’s monthly tuna/sashimi bill was big news tomight…the fun never stops…
Yes, because tuna and sashimi are things that the mere mortals can even dream about.
here is my bill for last month
9 cans of tuna (3x3 packs)
2 servings of sashimi in Wasabi (Taipei 101)
So, any bets on what will be the next big news - The ammount of toilet paper CSB uses (because this sh*t hit the fan so hard that it is all over the place, no)?
Yeah and that the Greedy Dipshit’s dad was a former KMT official also known for being a Greedy punk, except with Tax Payer Money![/quote]
Shrimp…got any evidence for that? 
I don’t think that there’s that much public pressure for Chen to resign. Though frustration is building and the DPP is paralyzed (who’s running for Taipei mayor?), I think James Soong is pushing resignation in a desperate attempt to get some visibility for his sagging career. That boy needs to go home and graciously lick his wounds for a few years.
Ma seems lukewarm on the issue, and there’s little political advantage in actually pushing for a resolution - as more and more scandals come out the DPP will likely be fractured between Chen loyalists and those in the party who recognize that something has to be done.
So, maybe we should consider precedents. What punishments have historically been meted out to fathers-in-law of guilty people? As a recent example - consider the good folks at Enron. How are their in-laws being punished?
ummm ummm
(cough cough)
punishment?
Anyway, don’t forget that Fortune listed them as the most innovative company for six years in a row, so we know that their innovation was all the way from the show off to the accounting book. Don’t forget that not only did Enron sent to unemployment 4.000 workers, they did also flunked Arthur Anderson (who had 28.000 of them). And let us not forget that Mrs. Linda Lay sold 500.000 shares 30 minutes to 10 minutes before the whole thing blew up. Is this a coincidence?
Maybe the Taiwan Fortune a-like magazine will make Chao as the Most Innovative Doctor of the Year…
Cultural values play a huge factor here. In any Chinese society, the failure of the children reflects very, very negatively on the parents. Similarly, successful children generate a remarkable amount of respect for their parents as well… which is why there’s so much parental bragging + pressure in Chinese communities.
The blue-collar parents of a Nobel prize winner could make a fortune in China by hitting the lecture circuit. The parents of a notorious criminal might as well stay indoors for the rest of their lives.
Unless the notorious criminal is called Chiu Yi, it seems…
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Looks like the KMT might sponsor a recall of CSB in the LY soon. All they need to do is convince 35 DPP members in the LY to vote with them on the issue.
With a approval rating of 5-16% in the general population, CSB is sure to be removed. I would even agree to put a secondary question alluding to “Taiwan Independence” on the recall referendum, just to get pan-Green support on this.
[quote=“cctang”]Cultural values play a huge factor here. In any Chinese society, the failure of the children reflects very, very negatively on the parents. Similarly, successful children generate a remarkable amount of respect for their parents as well… which is why there’s so much parental bragging + pressure in Chinese communities.
The blue-collar parents of a Nobel prize winner could make a fortune in China by hitting the lecture circuit. The parents of a notorious criminal might as well stay indoors for the rest of their lives.[/quote]
And you’re suggesting that this extends to the IN-LAWS? Maybe it is that way in Chinese society, but here in Taiwan…
No, true, I don’t think it normally extends to the in-laws. If there were no allegations of wrong-doing in the immediate first family, I doubt we would’ve reached the fever pitch of today.