# Pillion in Taiwan (holding/touching the driver?) **URL:** \ **Category:** Living in Taiwan\ **Created:** [December 10, 2020, 1:29pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/pillion-in-taiwan-holding-touching-the-driver/200081 "2020-12-10T13:29:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DKaoshuing](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/dkaoshuing/32/127142_2.png) [@DKaoshuing](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/DKaoshuing)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2020, 1:29pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/pillion-in-taiwan-holding-touching-the-driver/200081/1 "2020-12-10T13:29:15Z")
When on scooter (Pillion) as a passenger do you hold the driver? I had a passenger “hug” me , say I getting fat so made me think what other do when you ride. I do not like to hold others (other than GF) but others may think its ok. ---
**Author:** ![tango42](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/82dd89/32.png) [@tango42](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tango42)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2020, 2:09pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/pillion-in-taiwan-holding-touching-the-driver/200081/2 "2020-12-10T14:09:17Z")
As scooter or motorcycle passenger, I hold on to the back of the seat, with hand on driver to let them consciously and subconsciously know I’m ready to grab them if needed. If I’m driving, I suggest females to lock arms around my waist, and tell guys to grab me only in emergency and don’t be shy if urgent. ---
**Author:** ![DKaoshuing](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/dkaoshuing/32/127142_2.png) [@DKaoshuing](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/DKaoshuing)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2020, 2:24am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/pillion-in-taiwan-holding-touching-the-driver/200081/3 "2020-12-11T02:24:30Z")
> [@tango42](#): > > As scooter or motorcycle passenger, I hold on to the back of the seat, with hand on driver to let them consciously and subconsciously know I’m ready to grab them if needed. > > If I’m driving, I suggest females to lock arms around my waist, and tell guys to grab me only in emergency and don’t be shy if urgent. I get this suggestions from Females sometimes, but if I do know them well (or a co worker) a bit hesitant hold them around the waist. ---
**Author:** ![Rocket](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/rocket/32/160144_2.png) [@Rocket](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Rocket)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2020, 2:27am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/pillion-in-taiwan-holding-touching-the-driver/200081/4 "2020-12-11T02:27:29Z")
> [@DKaoshuing](#): > > **Pillion** ![](https://forumosauploads-12829.kxcdn.com/original/3X/7/3/73a037a5a10aa9f3a75998da03c72d6cc292d46c.jpeg) ??? ---
**Author:** ![the\_bear](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/the_bear/32/192391_2.png) [@the\_bear](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/the_bear)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2020, 3:12am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/pillion-in-taiwan-holding-touching-the-driver/200081/5 "2020-12-11T03:12:51Z")
I tell the chicks to hang on to my gear stick. 🤺 ---
**Author:** ![Steve4nLanguage](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/steve4nlanguage/32/180867_2.png) [@Steve4nLanguage](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Steve4nLanguage)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2020, 4:42am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/pillion-in-taiwan-holding-touching-the-driver/200081/6 "2020-12-11T04:42:00Z")
I think the majority of drivers don’t care, they want the passenger to feel safe. At least that’s what I’m thinking when I have a passenger. When I take the motorcycle taxis in Vietnam I lightly hold on to the sides of the driver’s waist/hip area. They don’t seem to think anything of it, and I certainly don’t want to risk falling into crazy Ho Chi Minh traffic. ![PhotoGrid_Plus_1607661571205](https://forumosauploads-12829.kxcdn.com/original/3X/a/a/aa5fa8c83fc1e84d9c4bfec651dad8039f362569.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![DKaoshuing](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/dkaoshuing/32/127142_2.png) [@DKaoshuing](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/DKaoshuing)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2020, 4:46am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/pillion-in-taiwan-holding-touching-the-driver/200081/7 "2020-12-12T04:46:55Z")
> [@Steve4nLanguage](#): > > I think the majority of drivers don’t care, they want the passenger to feel safe. At least that’s what I’m thinking when I have a passenger. > > When I take the motorcycle taxis in Vietnam I lightly hold on to the sides of the driver’s waist/hip area. They don’t seem to think anything of it, and I certainly don’t want to risk falling into crazy Ho Chi Minh traffic. > > ![PhotoGrid_Plus_1607661571205](https://forumosauploads-12829.kxcdn.com/original/3X/a/a/aa5fa8c83fc1e84d9c4bfec651dad8039f362569.jpeg) Nice photo. Not sure this type of Taxi/uber would be good for Taiwan as Taxi’s are already cheap. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Seeker](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/cc9497/32.png) [@The\_Seeker](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/The_Seeker)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2020, 4:54am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/pillion-in-taiwan-holding-touching-the-driver/200081/8 "2020-12-12T04:54:24Z")
As nice as it is to hold girls or be held by them, wouldn’t holding on to the motorcycle’s frame, seat or whatever be more stable? ---
**Author:** ![Belgian\_Pie](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/8dc957/32.png) [@Belgian\_Pie](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Belgian_Pie)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2020, 9:35am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/pillion-in-taiwan-holding-touching-the-driver/200081/9 "2020-12-12T09:35:42Z")
> [@DKaoshuing](#): > > I had a passenger “hug” me , say I getting fat so made me think what other do when you ride. Are you an Ojek scooter taxi? ---
**Author:** ![Safari](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@Safari](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Safari)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2020, 9:51am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/pillion-in-taiwan-holding-touching-the-driver/200081/10 "2020-12-12T09:51:58Z")
> [@The\_Seeker](#): > > holding on to the motorcycle’s frame, seat or whatever be more stable? Thats what I always did, do feel safer. ---
**Author:** ![Taiwan\_Luthiers](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@Taiwan\_Luthiers](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Taiwan_Luthiers)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2020, 11:29am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/pillion-in-taiwan-holding-touching-the-driver/200081/11 "2020-12-12T11:29:57Z")
If this is a big enough of a problem for you, don’t drive or ride a scooter. Get a car. No Taiwanese I know of seems to have issues with this. ---
**Author:** ![DKaoshuing](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/dkaoshuing/32/127142_2.png) [@DKaoshuing](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/DKaoshuing)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 5:20pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/pillion-in-taiwan-holding-touching-the-driver/200081/12 "2020-12-14T17:20:53Z")
> [@Taiwan\_Luthiers](#): > > If this is a big enough of a problem for you, don’t drive or ride a scooter. Get a car. > > No Taiwanese I know of seems to have issues with this. Not a big problem, just curious about thought from others. (I use both a car and scooter, like many others here) ---
**Author:** ![urodacus](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/urodacus/32/69843_2.png) [@urodacus](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/urodacus)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 6:36pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/pillion-in-taiwan-holding-touching-the-driver/200081/13 "2020-12-14T18:36:41Z")
I put the main weight holding the rear grab rail, if you can. Light touch on the rider’s waist or thigh to remind them you are there, and to let you show them your body angle, and to give directions by tapping or squeezing. But most of the time just sitting and controlling your body position front to back and left to right by foot peg pressure and gripping the seat with your legs. Just like pillion on a motorcycle. as long as the rider is competent. if not, you drive instead! ---
**Author:** ![crusher](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/crusher/32/235005_2.png) [@crusher](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/crusher)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 12:05am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/pillion-in-taiwan-holding-touching-the-driver/200081/14 "2020-12-15T00:05:14Z")
> [@tango42](#): > > As scooter or motorcycle passenger, I hold on to the back of the seat, with hand on driver to let them consciously and subconsciously know I’m ready to grab them if needed. > > If I’m driving, I suggest females to lock arms around my waist, and tell guys to grab me only in emergency and don’t be shy if urgent. yup, girls grab tight, guys take Uber, or a bus if you are poor. My bike cost me good money I do not want a heavy male lump on it. Girls welcome however. ---
**Author:** ![DesiInTaipei](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/desiintaipei/32/95528_2.png) [@DesiInTaipei](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/DesiInTaipei)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 6:15am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/pillion-in-taiwan-holding-touching-the-driver/200081/15 "2020-12-15T06:15:08Z")
Can they find it in a reasonable amount of time? 🤪 ---
**Author:** ![RickRoll](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/rickroll/32/180921_2.png) [@RickRoll](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/RickRoll)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 6:45am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/pillion-in-taiwan-holding-touching-the-driver/200081/16 "2020-12-15T06:45:26Z")
If I take someone with me, I ask them to hold me either by the sides, shoulder or waist, no matter if girls or boys. I do feel it’s safer to ride that way, as they will move their body in sync with mine and it’s easier to balance the bike. I once took one guy that only held on to the frame, and for some reason was moving his body in opposite direction than mine. It was hard to turn corners!