Point system for foreigners

Taiwan likes to copy Japan, will it copy this? A point system for foreigners . IS it a good thing or bad.

thejakartapost.com/news/2011 … gners.html

Personally I think this sort of thing is a good idea, because then everyone knows the score (in both senses). The only problem is that the Taiwanese version would deduct 100 points for anyone browner than a sheet of A4, or whose first language is Tagalog, or who qualified at a university “not recognised by Taiwan”.

It also doesn’t take into account that the average Western foreigner here is working in an unskilled job. I can’t see a Thai professional getting preference over a Canadian kindy teacher though.

Singapore already has an unwritten “point” system for foreigners that want to work there based on education, skills, income, etc.
The TECRO offices routinely recruit top skilled talents in job fairs to come work in Taiwan.
http://www.taiwanembassy.org/US/ct.asp?xItem=230905&ctNode=2295&mp=12
Does anyone know how successful the TECRO program has been?

I like this part:

[quote]Basic points will be derived from academic career, employment career and annual income. Employment at companies assisted by the government and graduates of Japanese universities will be given “bonus points.”

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[quote=“PapaAzucar”]Singapore already has an unwritten “point” system for foreigners that want to work there based on education, skills, income, etc.
The TECRO offices routinely recruit top skilled talents in job fairs to come work in Taiwan.
http://www.taiwanembassy.org/US/ct.asp?xItem=230905&ctNode=2295&mp=12
Does anyone know how successful the TECRO program has been?[/quote]

Their current system focuses on recruiting overseas Taiwanese to come back, with little success because salaries and working conditions don’t match up.

New Zealand and Australia have a point system for immigration …

I think South Korea had a system like that also but I don’t remember the details.

So does Hong Kong, and I’m told it’s generally a really good thing. Certainly Taiwan needs something to make it easier for foreign professionals to work here.

A point system is a very good thing. It’s why immigration has been extremely successful in countries like Australia or Canada, but an unmitigated disaster in Europe. A point system keeps the riff-raff out to a large extent.

I think this is a poor choice of wording. It gives highly qualified immigrants an easier chance to get settled. The riff raff still gets in.

Abacus: Not to nearly the same extent.

the problem will come when they start to decide what should count and not count as a point and try to reinvent the wheel on this.

Taiwanese love to copy something and then reinvent it, sometimes with little or no success and or even end up making it into a royal F*ckup .

thats my worry.

(not that im really worried but you know what i mean)

The riff raff gets in the same ways that they have always gotten in. Taiwan doesn’t have a system like this and there is plenty of foreign riff raff on this island.

beer belly and sandles = 10 points
unshaven +5

Taiwan has very few spots for white collar foreign professionals, most of them migrated to China starting 15 years ago. Unlike Japan, Taiwan is not going to offer foreigners top dollar to work middling jobs.

Apples and oranges.

There already is a prerequisite system in place here. 2 years experience in your field before you can work here, and having a degree from an English speaking country before you can teach here. It seems to work ok, unless you are one of the tired old fucks on Forumosa.com crying about how the poor behavior of Saffie and Canuck teachers here in Taiwan is affecting how people treat you.

I know I am pedantic, but this above sentence is only true if you want to teach English.
I teach other languages at universities and nobody ever asked me to show a degree from a English speaking country.

I don’t know about Taiwan but this has greatly increased my interest in Japan. Taiwan would have to do a lot more than have a point system to attract high skill foreign talent. I was more than happy to live in Taiwan as an English teacher but as a web developer I’m not sure it’s my cup of tea.

The current system is pretty easy, one or two years work experience and a degree , heck it’s great if you just want to be sponsored for work!
Problem is the low pay and finding companies who want to hire you at the right price, and the crap work conditions.
Even the hard working japanese have at least double the number of public holidays of Taiwan and of course pay is pretty good there.

Because some foreigners are more equal than others.