Nobody is arguing against the right of legitimate self-defense. If the facts show Zimmerman was defending himself from death or serious bodily injury rather than making false claims to cover up the fact that he was retaliating with deadly force after losing a fist fight then he was within his rights.
The law is simple, yet you and others continue to misunderstand it.
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GZ does not need to show that he was defending himself from death or serious bodily injury. He needs only show that he had a reasonable fear of imminent death or serious bodily injury. That’s all.
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The prosecution, not GZ, must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that GZ was retaliating with deadly force after losing a fist fight in order to get GZ convicted of 2nd degree murder.
The law is simple, yet you and others continue to misunderstand it.
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GZ does not need to show that he was defending himself from death or serious bodily injury. He needs only show that he had a reasonable fear of imminent death or serious bodily injury. That’s all.
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The prosecution, not GZ, must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that GZ was retaliating with deadly force after losing a fist fight in order to get GZ convicted of 2nd degree murder.[/quote]
The context of my statement about rights and the fact that no one was contesting the legitimate right to self-defense was:
:not the narrower context of Florida’s Stand Your Ground statute.
[quote=“Winston Smith”]The context of my statement about rights and the fact that no one was contesting the legitimate right to self-defense was:
:not the narrower context of Florida’s Stand Your Ground statute.[/quote]
IMO, the facts, as we now know them, support GZ’s story under either SD or SYG. SYG is simply a modification of SD.

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Slightly partisan. But funny.



Word to the wise.
Don’t invite Clint Eastwood to Seder next year.
He’ll start yelling at the empty chair.
:roflmao: :roflmao:
I’m dying here.
Clint at Mr. Obama’s bar mitzvah:

:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:
It’s no fun now that j., tm., and dmc aren’t around.
from left to right (ironic juxtaposition)
“I’m tell ya’ I’m either gonna get a role as Spock or Cornélius.”
“Where the hell you get that tie? Damn bro, your grandma be shoppin’?”
“la, de, da, where’s the gin and the interns?”
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[quote=“Jaboney”]
[quote=“Reuters”]
Canada on Monday became the first country to announce it would withdraw from the Kyoto protocol on climate change
, dealing a symbolic blow to the already troubled global treaty.[/quote][/quote]
That was in 2011. In 2013 Calagary downed. Political satire? Not needed…