He had his eyes open the whole time I was in there…And his eyes followed me from one side of the bed to the other.
He looks so much better…It seems like he’s right there with you, but not, at the same time.
More tomorrow,
MJB
MJB, eyes are designed to follow moving things (and that’s why when you talk to me I constantly look away at people walking by…really).
This is good in a way, that those basic brain functions/connections are still there…
Any facial movements?
[quote=“jdsmith”]MJB, eyes are designed to follow moving things (and that’s why when you talk to me I constantly look away at people walking by…really).
This is good in a way, that those basic brain functions/connections are still there…
Any facial movements?[/quote]
There were during my visit, but it wasn’t a relaxed affair at all. His heart rate was really elevated, and he seemed very tense.
I spoke with theGingerman’s better half last night and she’s informed me that Mark still has a fair bit of fluid in the lungs which has prompted them to relocate his chest tube to better facilitate drainage.
There is a finite amount of time that a patient can stay in ICU…I was told 30 days. From then on, it’s a standard room without 24 hour nursing staff, with the family being responsible for daily care. If his condition stays the same, then this is where the real work of caring for Mark begins…
Lets hope he awakens before then 
MJB and anyone else who is able to help on this. We might as well try everything. A friend told me the names and numbers of some Scientology people in Taoyuan and Taipei who might be able to help Mark. I know, the S word, but in this case, they won’t be pushing anything on him in his state. But i heard that they have some techniques of touching, and sound, to help try to wake people UP from coma states. It’s worth a try. They do not charge money as far as a I know. Here are some numbers to call:
03: 485.1320
02 - 2358-1579
02- 2543 - 2398
explain the situation maybe the (03) number is best for now.
it’s not wires and gimmicks, from what i understand, it’s a person going into the room with the patient and speaking to them in quiet tones, asking them to touch the bedsheet, touch the pillow, things like that, ectc, to awaken conciousness. and it works…some times… try?
It certainly woke this guy up.
But seriously…Scientology?
I won’t even start in on it, but if you think it’ll help, hey, give it a try.
Scientology, voodoo, chinese medecine…whatever.
I only know that Mark has to wake up to be there for his wife and kids soon so whatever process which could lead to healing quickly might be more than welcome.
Not knowing him, I do hope the best things will happen…soon. For the sake of himself and all of you nice people who support him this way.
I’ve only met Mark on one occation and I do consider myself a good judge of character. I think that bring in Scientologist would make him laugh his arse off. But then again laughter has been know to be an aid in healing so perhaps that wouldn’t be so bad. 
Seriously folks, what Mark needs is visitation and prayers or just good thoughts sent his way. We don’t need to send our belief systems into a situation that is very hard to begin with. As for getting Mark back on his feet fast, lets not rush that.
Can we just find a way to support him in this stage of his life? And not act like life is suppose to be all rosy all the time???
Accupuncture has a specific treatment for coma. You need to needle the points M-EU-1, Li-3, and supplementary points Gv-14, P-6 and S-40. Ask any accupuncturist, and they ought to concur.
It can also be done via the ear. I am a trained (but not qualified) accupunturist, so would not like to do the treatment myself, but I really cannot see what harm stickking some (very fine) needles into Mark would do. After all, any contact is probably better than none, provided it doesn’t add to his trauma.
According to Chinese Medicine, what Mark has is a manifestation of Re Du Qi - literally “hot poison chi”. The longer he lingers, the less effective the treatment. So if anyone out these is in a position to authorise this treatment, the sooner the better.
[quote=“govt-attache”]Accupuncture has a specific treatment for coma. You need to needle the points M-EU-1, Li-3, and supplementary points Gv-14, P-6 and S-40. Ask any accupuncturist, and they ought to concur.
It can also be done via the ear. I am a trained (but not qualified) accupunturist, so would not like to do the treatment myself, but I really cannot see what harm stickking some (very fine) needles into Mark would do. After all, any contact is probably better than none, provided it doesn’t add to his trauma.
According to Chinese Medicine, what Mark has is a manifestation of Re Du Qi - literally “hot poison chi”. The longer he lingers, the less effective the treatment. So if anyone out these is in a position to authorise this treatment, the sooner the better.[/quote]
This has and well may continue to be being done…
Interesting grammar!
Interesting grammar![/quote]
so off topic, but is it necessary to comment on grammar in such a serious thread? * rant off*
Interesting grammar![/quote]
Oops… 
Wookie and I just got back from visiting Mark…His condition is unchanged. Eye movement, left hand.
It’s so frustrating not knowing whether or not he knows you are around, but I just jabber away as if he’s hearing every word.
More later in the week,
MJB
Interesting grammar![/quote]
so off topic, but is it necessary to comment on grammar in such a serious thread? * rant off*[/quote]
Is it necessary to rant? I was told the big guy has a sense of humour. 
MJB - you say "may’ continue. With the best intentions for Mark, I do hope whoever is making this decision for him DOES indeed proceed with this treatment, for 2 reasons;
- He’s got nothing to lose - needles are not going to hurt him at this stage (indeed, I hope he hates needles - they might prick him into consciousness!). besides, only 3 - 4 needles are required, penetrating only a few mm.s. Even if you are fully conscious, sometimes you can hardly feel it.
- Accupuncture is actually widely recognised as a scientific treatment. Although there is a lot of misconception about this treatment - mainly that modern medicine still cannot explain WHY it works - we do know that it DOES wrok - i.e. it is clinically proven to be highly effective for specific medical conditions - and that fact that it can be demonstrated time after time, means it is indeed scientifically verifiable. I mention this because the following may seem a little bizarre, but it forms the “accupunture rationale” as regards treatment of coma:
"The 6 excesses (abnormalities) are wind, heat,cold, dampness, dryness, & summer heat. They correspond to the 5 phases, metal, wood, water, fire, earth (jin, mu, shui, hou, tu).
Most symptoms associated with Coma are caused by penetration of HEAT from without. After invading the body, the phlegm & fire from this “hot poison” obstruct the body cavities and obscure the “light of the spirit”, i.e. they induce coma. In its initial stages, coma is referred to as a “closed” condition. If, however, the body cannot recover sufficiently, the illness may deteriorate to the point the viatl organs cease to function and a so called “abandoned” condition ensues, resulting in death. For coma in the closed stage, treatment is aimed at opening the cavities to drain the heat. In the abandoned stage, treatment is aimend at restoring the Yang and stablizing those fucntions that are being abandoned.
note: the needling treatment is different depending on whether treating for a closed condition, or an abandoned condition"
Hence my concern that you say the treatment “may” continue. If Mark has passed to the abandoned stage, or is about to, then the treatment needs to be different. I trust you have enlisted the services of a good accupunturist.
in the meantime, C’mon Mark - pull yourself out of that coma - you can do it!..
How’s Mark’s body weight?
Interesting grammar![/quote]
so off topic, but is it necessary to comment on grammar in such a serious thread? * rant off*[/quote]
Is it necessary to rant? I was told the big guy has a sense of humour. [/quote]
Not to you necessarily JD, because I’m tired of the back and forth fighting we’ve had on the board. But it is necessary to “rant”. It was IMO an unnecessary comment in a serious thread. The time I’ve been on here, I consistently have seen people make catty comments about spelling and grammar. I think that this should be a place where people can just come and make their statements/opinions/comments in any manner. Sure one would be take more seriously if all of it was correct, but sometimes I really see a lack of tack with posters on here that just detracts from the premise that F.com is a community. Nothing is perfect in a community.
Methinks Chris knows MJB well and this was playful banter.
But evidently Rachel didn’t. So could we remember that when we post?
He’s a big guy, but at the same time he’s definitely dropped a few pounds. When he wakes up, at least the beer gut will be gone. 
I haven’t heard anything tonight, but assuming status quo as neither thegingerman or wookie has posted comment.
Will head back up tomorrow night and pay him a visit.
Lastly regarding the PC grammar police…I seriously doubt Chris had anything in mind other than a good chuckle, so lets not get in an uproar over it. My mistake after all.
Anyone care to join me tomorrow?
Rachel was not worried about the playful banter. She was commenting however about the fundraising end and the things that have been said there. All ideas are great and much appreciated, by no matter who. Even if they don’t seem right to all at the time, it was an idea, not a must do thing. All have tried hard and given suggestions. Let’s accept them as that and not cut them down. To give constructive criticism is good but not negativity, especially at a time like this. Remember we all have good intentions and the best in mind for Mark.
Govt, good info., thanks. Your knowledge is very welcome. His weight? MJB mistakes happen, even to perfect guys like me. 
Keep trying Mark. You will make it I am sure. Prayers are sent your way every night.