Starting this one far, far in advance, but why not, there’s been enough speculation already.
I have no idea whose likely to be on the tickets the next time around. I can think of a few interesting line ups, a few people I’d like to see run, and I few that I wouldn’t.
(Anyone here watch The West Wing? Catch the storyline at the end of last season? Two standup candidates who respect each other and want to run clean campaigns… that’s my pipe-dream. It’s also pure Hollywood. sigh)
Anyways, here are the questions–answer which ever you so choose, add to them if that’s your pleasure:
I think Hillary will run. I wouldn’t want to see her win, though, because I don’t trust her.
I don’t know if Condi will run. I wouldn’t want to see her win, because I don’t trust her and I still don’t think she’s not all that bright. Besides, she’s said that when she’s done in Washington, she’s wants to be the NFL Comissioner (thanks to MikeN for the correction)… and I wish her well in that. If she were to win, though, it’d be great to see the US get a black president… better still if she earned broad-based support across the spectrum.
That said, I’d really like to see Hillary vs. Condi, because I think the campaign would be good for the country…but in that case I’d have to cheer on Hillary or a third-party candidate. A female president would also be nice.
Barack Obama’s had good hype, but all I know of him is the hype, and he’s too green. Maybe in '12.
I’d like to see McCain go again, independently if he has to, but he’ll be 72. And like Rudy Giuliani, he appeals too much to the rest of the country, and too little to the hardcore right, to win the party. Too bad, a McCain-Powell administration might have been very pragmatic and effective.
That’s just off of the top of my head. There are plenty of others to consider: Frist, Bidden, Richardson, Hagel… oh yeah, and another Bush or two, but not this time around.
It’s sad but I don’t think the U.S. is ready for a black or female president. It may sound okay now but when you put them up against your traditional white male candidate, people will just turn away from them. It’ll be ugly. Just you watch.
[quote=“Jaboney”]I don’t know if Condi will run. I wouldn’t want to see her win, because I don’t trust her and I still don’t think she’s not all that bright. Besides, she’s said that when she’s done in Washington, she’s wants to be the MLB Comissioner… and I wish her well in that. If she were to win, though, it’d be great to see the US get a black president… better still if she earned broad-based support across the spectrum.
That said, I’d really like to see Hillary vs. Condi, because I think the campaign would be good for the country…but in that case I’d have to cheer on Hillary or a third-party candidate. A female president would also be nice. [/quote]
It is apparent that Condi is female but are you sure she is black? I tan darker than that and nobody calls me black, or back either, but that’s another matter. In any event, if you could confirm that condi is black and get back to me that would be great. I have a tremendous personal interest in the issue.
[quote=“Jaboney”]
And like Rudy Giuliani, he appeals too much to the rest of the country, and too little to the hardcore right, to win the party. [/quote]
It all depends on the confidence of the Republicans that they can win after Bush. I think they certainly can, but they need someone precisely who DOES appeal to a wide range of voters. That is why someone like Giuliani might pull it off. I think it would be a good race between he and Hilly…and secretly would love to see him knock her socks off (figuratively of course)
I disagree. Having a black president would further isolate radical racist splinter groups, and their hatred would turn off others who held similiar beliefs, but lacked the intense hatred for blacks.
However, if the black or woman president did a poor job, there’d probably be a big “I told ya so!” but we’d get over that initial stage quickly I think.
The question in your post as I see it Z is this: it is not whether or not the COUNTRY is ready for a black or female president. The question is is there a candidate who is ready for the Presidency?
Hillary and Condi are “only” politicians, and there are some other good female politicians, and plenty of crappy ones to be sure, and a slew of excellent women CEOs that run billion dollar multinational companies, who IMHO would be well-suited for the job.
[quote=“jdsmith”]
The question in your post as I see it Z is this: it is not whether or not the COUNTRY is ready for a black or female president. The question is is there a candidate who is ready for the Presidency?
Hillary and Condi are “only” politicians, and there are some other good female politicians, and plenty of crappy ones to be sure, and a slew of excellent women CEOs that run billion dollar multinational companies, who IMHO would be well-suited for the job.
I welcome it.[/quote]
I see what you are saying, but I think all qualifications being equal, I still don’t think there is acceptance of a female candidate unless she exhibited “male” qualities and of a black candidate unless that person had “white” cultural values. Partly, it’s because people are conditioned to think of the Presidency as a white male job, much like people used to be conditioned to think of secretary as a female job. I do agree with you though that the only way to change it is to have that be a real option. But it won’t work the first time around.
[quote=“Jaboney”]
I don’t know if Condi will run. I wouldn’t want to see her win, because I don’t trust her and I still don’t think she’s not all that bright. [/quote]
But aren’t you the one who said Michaelle Jean has lots of “smarts”?
[quote=“Comrade Stalin”][quote=“Jaboney”]
I don’t know if Condi will run. I wouldn’t want to see her win, because I don’t trust her and I still don’t think she’s not all that bright. [/quote]
But aren’t you the one who said Michaelle Jean has lots of “smarts”?[/quote]Yep, but I wouldn’t vote for her either… not until I see her get some significant political experience. I guess she’ll get that now, but the position pretty much disqualifies her from later seeking office. But enough of that, who’d you like to see in the race, Comrade?
[quote=“Jaboney”][quote=“Comrade Stalin”][quote=“Jaboney”]
I don’t know if Condi will run. I wouldn’t want to see her win, because I don’t trust her and I still don’t think she’s not all that bright. [/quote]
But aren’t you the one who said Michaelle Jean has lots of “smarts”?[/quote]Yep, but I wouldn’t vote for her either[/quote]
And the Liberals will make sure you never have to Why don’t they make this postion truly open to the people and allow Canadians to vote in their GG? Same with the Senate? Did Ottawa ever appoint Ted Morton or Link Byfield – the choice of Albertans for the Senate? Nope.
I think it is because the Toronto-Ottawa Axis of Evil looks down upon the West. It is little wonder that the seeds of seperatism are growing.
I see what you are saying, but I think all qualifications being equal, I still don’t think there is acceptance of a female candidate unless she exhibited “male” qualities and of a black candidate unless that person had “white” cultural values. Partly, it’s because people are conditioned to think of the Presidency as a white male job, much like people used to be conditioned to think of secretary as a female job. I do agree with you though that the only way to change it is to have that be a real option. But it won’t work the first time around.[/quote]
Which is why Condi would be an acceptable choice- “tough” on national security, and definitely “white” i.e. conservative cultural values.
She won’t get it because she’s pro-choice- unless the backlash is so strong that the Republicans will be demanding a candidate who can appeal to the center and overcome the religious right’s strength in the primaries.
The only candidates’ names I’ve heard mentioned from the Republicrats who would even deserve to be called lesser evils are McCain, Feingold, Kucinich, Paul, Spitzer, and Conyers.
I probably won’t vote for any of them though, at least if they run as a Duopoly candidate. If they went indie or Libertarian or Green or something, it would be hard for me not to vote for them.
Regardless, I look forward to the 3rd parties and independents to find a candidate worthy of my vote–if I decide to vote. Others I would possibly vote for include Sheehan, Camejo, Gonzolez, Nader, Peltier, Zeese, LaDuke, or Biafra (how sweet that would be!). If I can’t find nobody’s name on the pResidential line that looks good, maybe I’ll wrtie-in Kathleen Hanna or Utah Phillips, or Richard Nixon (Now more than ever–right?).
Or if nobody interesting is running at the local level I may just stay home.
or a third-party candidate. 
A female president would also be nice.
Why don’t they make this postion truly open to the people and allow Canadians to vote in their GG? Same with the Senate? Did Ottawa ever appoint Ted Morton or Link Byfield – the choice of Albertans for the Senate? Nope.