Puyuma train derailed in Yilan (21 October 2018)

accident
train

#261

In a report by Commonwealth Magazine, Ma Shih-yuan (馬士元), an associate professor of urban planning and disaster management at Ming Chuan University, was cited as saying that he refused to take the Puyuma Express when it was first launched in 2013, and instead has taken the slower Tze-Chiang Limited Express to eastern Taiwan over the past five years.

This is how I will do things from now on. Starting this Saturday. Let the tourists from China and tourist agencies fight over those tickets (like they have been doing from the beginning).


#262

The Taiwan government has lavishly invested in flashy infrastructure…

This kind of stands out to me. How many new railway station have been opened in recent years. I probably can name few from the top of my head. Keelung, South Shulin, the underground one in Kaohsiung, the underground one in Hualien (Wuhe?), Taroko, Kaohsiung’s main station (still under construction), and probably a few more


#263

This seems to be a pattern in Taiwan’s infrastructure and urban planning and construction. I guess fixing hazardous electrical wiring, improving sewage disposal and dismantling illegal structures doesn’t look as flashy on election brochures and doesn’t sound as cool in pompous speeches.


#264

That is one of the criticisms againts TRA: that a lot is invested in infrastructure, but not in maintenance.

There is also a serious lagging in human resources. Aside from sheer numbers, it seems that drivers, though they have to pass many tests and qualifications, recently have been skipping the more difficult tests and experience of driving cargo and slower trains, for the easier tests and semi automatic driving of puyuma. That is a problem.

Today I saw on the news confirmation of my theory: yes, it was Taipei who decided that the train, in spite the multiple failures, delays and malfunctions, had to press on until Hualien, even though it was already limping since Ruifang.

This decision was made after the attempt at fixing teh mechanical problem in Yilan failed.

The TRA employee interviewed claims they did not have the resources to move the passengers to another means of transportation -charter buses- and it would take too long/further delays to bring the engine from Hualien, so they decided to keep on driving to Hualien, then switch there. All this is documented in a series of messages by phone.


#265

One article said this is the seventh derailment in the past two years. If that’s the case the management really need to get their squids fried.


#266

Not sure if this was already mentioned but one article said the Conductor turned off the Tains Speed Safety and was going twice the safe speed in that turn the moment it derailed.


#267

Mentioned, oh, 73 times?


#268

In related news he managed to write “[the driver] waived his right to legal counsel”. Previously he has written “waved”. So our boy is learning.


#269

Why didn’t they drive, like, slowly…? Still would have saved them time and passengers would not have been inconvenienced that much. Well, hindsight is always the best sight.


#270

Even the Thalys (HST) in Europe sells standing tickets at 10Euro.


#271

Driver says he accelerated after the station. he was pressed and stressed… and did not have time to break.

We are still not being told why the ATP was disabled.


#272

A driver should not be able to turn it off.


#273

Conductor is often used here to mean driver but the conductor is not the driver in the train world

The conductor is the ticket checker the driver is the driver

Just saying


#274

Conductor is Spanish for driver.


#275

Excellent but we are using English here and a conductor is normally the person in charge of the cabin so to speak while the train operator is the driver

Just saying

Anyways i had been having near daily nightmares a few weeks ago of a train running at too fast a speed and a terrible train crash in Taiwan

So weird never had nightmares about trains
Likely a coincidence still


#276

It was just a matter of time.


#277

In before K Man writes an article suggesting you may have been partially responsible of the accident.


#278

So, Tommy, don’t tell anyone. You know Taiwanese and their superstition, they could sue you.


#279

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Hamlet to Horatio


#280

The superstion has been with the number 1021. Seems there is a chain of bus, plane and other train crashes with that number.