I plan on going to Taipei and working a different job (not associated with teaching) and they will sponsor my work permit. How can I work part time as a teacher at 1 or more schools without them sponsoring my work permit?
Will they do it for me? Will I get paid on time? Has anyone else exerienced this?
What troubles can I run into? What is the likelihood I will run into them?
Oh and a question about Health Insurance…my new company wont be providing this. What does a foreigner do? How much does it cost? How do I get it?
[quote=“NikoStar”]Oh and a question about Health Insurance…my new company wont be providing this. What does a foreigner do? How much does it cost? How do I get it?
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Oh really? I thought it was the law that your ARC sponsoring employer was obligated to arrange for and pay some percentage (60-70%) of your health insurance.
You can have more than one job on your ARC, but I’m not sure how it works between teaching and non-teaching work permits.
Teaching and non-teaching wps are issued by different ministries. You will have to have two separate wps, legally: you must have an MOE wp to teach, unless you have open work rights through permanent residency/married a wimmin residency.
I don’t know anyone that has done that, though, so not much help.
Aren’t all wp’s issued through the department of labor now? I know when I first got here, teaching wp’s were issued through the department of education, but I thought that changed.
I’m curious to hear more about the health insurance thing. I thought it was the law.
about the health insurance…this company will not be sponsoring an ARC for me…just a WP. so i guess by law if i get an ARC i should be getting HI but since its on a WP…what do i do?
and ive met people who taught at multiple schools, so there must be a way to do it w/o having WP’s with each place? i thought by law you could only have WP with the one job. so nooooo one has ever done this?
[quote=“NikoStar”]about the health insurance…this company will not be sponsoring an ARC for me…just a WP. so i guess by law if I get an ARC i should be getting HI but since its on a WP…what do I do?
and ive met people who taught at multiple schools, so there must be a way to do it w/o having WP’s with each place? i thought by law you could only have WP with the one job. so nooooo one has ever done this?[/quote]
The company doesn’t “sponsor” an ARC for you. The work permit is the legal basis for your ARC. You get your work permit approved, then you apply for your ARC which allows you to continually reside in Taiwan. I think when your company says they won’t “sponsor” an ARC for you, it means you are on your own for paying for the health check, cab fares to the NIA, etc. By law you and your company have to pay into the national health insurance system. If you are on a work permit for a white-collar job, you are not allowed to teach part-time. The only way to do it is to work illegally, which is just plain naughty.
[quote=“Flicka”][quote=“NikoStar”]about the health insurance…this company will not be sponsoring an ARC for me…just a WP. so i guess by law if I get an ARC i should be getting HI but since its on a WP…what do I do?
and ive met people who taught at multiple schools, so there must be a way to do it w/o having WP’s with each place? i thought by law you could only have WP with the one job. so nooooo one has ever done this?[/quote]
The company doesn’t “sponsor” an ARC for you. The work permit is the legal basis for your ARC. You get your work permit approved, then you apply for your ARC which allows you to continually reside in Taiwan. I think when your company says they won’t “sponsor” an ARC for you, it means you are on your own for paying for the health check, cab fares to the NIA, etc. By law you and your company have to pay into the national health insurance system. If you are on a work permit for a white-collar job, you are not allowed to teach part-time. The only way to do it is to work illegally, which is just plain naughty.[/quote]
Ok well if I don’t get an ARC …how much would health insurance cost me? Does anyone have an idea? Do you know of any private enterprises I can go to?
Also, if this job is not a white-collar job…then can I get multiple working permits? So my main company would be this one, and then I could teach part time on another working permit? I was under the impression that you could only hold one working permit for one job and taht was it. like you can’t work for any other companies in Taiwan. If I am mistaken please clear this up. Thanks for the help
Absolutely not true. You can have a PT teaching and a PT white-collar job. Your sponsoring employer must approve (in writing, officially, stamped) of the additional job.
OP: What is your new job? You’re not teaching, you’re not working in an office. Are you going to be a caregiver? If so, that might have other laws/regulations in place. I’m pretty sure your primary employer has to take care of your health insurance. You can get better insurance if you want, so I’m sure there must be some private insurers…but really, most of the population uses the government-provided insurance policy.
AND: AFAIK You must have an ARC. Your work permits rely on the ARC. First you get a resident visa and then you get an ARC which is your official ID card for living in Taiwan.
Ok well if I don’t get an ARC …how much would health insurance cost me? Does anyone have an idea? Do you know of any private enterprises I can go to?
Also, if this job is not a white-collar job…then can I get multiple working permits? So my main company would be this one, and then I could teach part time on another working permit? I was under the impression that you could only hold one working permit for one job and taht was it. like you can’t work for any other companies in Taiwan. If I am mistaken please clear this up. Thanks for the help[/quote]
You have to get an ARC, otherwise you are in the country illegally. You are welcome to get private health insurance, but you still have to pay (it is taken out of your paycheck) into the national health insurance system, whether you use it or not. If you are a caregiver, you can most likely forget about your employer giving you their blessing to get a part-time teaching job.
Don’t you think you owe it to your employer who is SPONSORING your work permit to be a bit loyal to them, at least at first, before you start freaking out about being able to work at a part-time job?
Ok well if I don’t get an ARC …how much would health insurance cost me? Does anyone have an idea? Do you know of any private enterprises I can go to?
Also, if this job is not a white-collar job…then can I get multiple working permits? So my main company would be this one, and then I could teach part time on another working permit? I was under the impression that you could only hold one working permit for one job and taht was it. like you can’t work for any other companies in Taiwan. If I am mistaken please clear this up. Thanks for the help[/quote]
You have to get an ARC, otherwise you are in the country illegally. You are welcome to get private health insurance, but you still have to pay (it is taken out of your paycheck) into the national health insurance system, whether you use it or not. If you are a caregiver, you can most likely forget about your employer giving you their blessing to get a part-time teaching job.
Don’t you think you owe it to your employer who is SPONSORING your work permit to be a bit loyal to them, at least at first, before you start freaking out about being able to work at a part-time job?[/quote]
I just learned about the ARC thing. Well the reason why I would get a part time job is because this job field I am getting into (entertainment) is not stable. So I would need a part time teaching job in the mean time. My employer knows about the part time job…so its no big deal.
I just learned that I need the ARC to be here legally. I am told my current employer can transfer the ARC to the next employer. Is this true? What is the possibility of transferring to another PART TIME teaching job? I am told you need to be considered full time with at least 14 hours a week of work…is this true? I want my entertainment company to get the ARC for me, but they do not do such things. If I need an ARC anyway, that solves my health insurance questions…But now I’m confused on who I can work with and who will sponsor the ARC for me. (I just use the word sponsor as it is easy to relate to)
why would it be illegal? is it illegal to be in the entertainment industry in taiwan? not entertainment like porn either…i dont know what you’re referring to.
To answer your last questions:
The ARC is YOURS. You can add and remove work permits through applications with Foreign Affairs, but you keep the ARC as long as you have a primary WP from an employer. If you want to transfer to a WP from a school, the school must be able to provide you with 14 (or 16) hours of work a week.
According to what you’ve told us, you have it backwards. You have to get a school or other job that will provide you with enough hours to be a primary WP and help you get the ARC. Then, once your ARC is in line, you can add a second job – your entertainment job – as a part-time position. They will still have to pay taxes for you and add into the national health insurance pot, AFAIK.
The school has to know about your desire to have the entertainment job. You had better get it in writing that they agree to it BEFORE you sign a contract. And make sure the contract doesnt say anything about not being able to have a second job.
If you need more help with this, ask your employer to put you in touch with another one of their foreign entertainers. They’ll tell you about their experience and how they’re managing. Or, read Tealit for help with the teaching position, work permit, and ARC issue.
BTW: Buttercup et al aren’t jumping on you per se. They’ve seen a lot and are more inclined to help out the newcomers. This really does sound fishy when you only give bits and pieces of info.
hey jenny
thanks for the info. well it is a modeling agency. i would hope they would take care of the ARC and i want them to be my primary job. Is this even possible? Is this what she was talking about, as in it might be illegal?
Are foreigners allowed to work as full time models and teach part time? I hope to join this agency and get an ARC through them and have no hassles…but its very confusing. It would make life much easier to get them to sponsor the ARC. If not I will have to find a school to give me roughly 14 hours and not much more as I will have a tight schedule modeling. Any ideas?