I do not understand why the school lunch program has anything to do with vouchers. My understanding is that schools that are “failing” are those that qualify for vouchers.
So you now have $6.26 million for 813 children. This works out to $7,700 per pupil AND you are not including any of the many private grants from the Ford Foundation, Microsoft, bilingual education grants, minority encouargement funds, etc. etc.
This is not how I understand it. My understanding is that not ALL but only part of the funding per pupil can be used, i.e. around one-third or $2,000. That means the schools have all that other money left. Second, you have given figures that add to $7,700 so even in the worst case scenario the school would still have $300 for not educating a child, AND if that child is gone, why would the school need that money in the first place. THAT is the figure that the school has said it needs to educate the child, no child and even if as you have claimed, which I dispute, that all the money would be available to go with the child so what? No child. No expense. Right? But my understanding is that the majority of funding is based on property tax receipts so why would this change if the student left. The school still gets most of its money this way.
Some one has been reading the talking points from the teachers unions. I love this. So low-income and low-education parents cannot make decisions for themselves and you are worried about the Patriot Act taking away someone’s rights?
Hurray. There it is. I love this. I know that this comes right out of the teachers union handbook. Think of what you are saying. If these low-income parents are not smart enough or rich enough to make decisions about their children’s education, then what makes you think that they can make any informed decisions about their lives. Ergo, they should have all decisions regarding where they live, how much they spend and on what and even how many children they have made by the State. Do you agree with that?
B.S. The fact remains that 70 percent of Black low income, low-educated parents support vouchers in inner city school districts. Please explain to me how so many diehard Democrat voters are suddenly supporting Republican Central.
So you are saying that good pupils should suffer along with the bad ones? Also, what makes you think that these children were not a challenge before? Suddenly, reducing the number of students albeit good ones makes the challenge of having these students that don’t care greater? Even though they were in the classes all along? This does not make sense.
Which in turn burdens the teacher with stress, because one his/her budget for resources has been cut, [/quote]
No it has not. In the best of circumstances that you have been able to raise, you have shown that regardless of how we tally this, the school is still getting a net plus regardless of whether the student stays or leaves and in my view, the school actually keeps 2/3rds of the funding. The student only gets one-third to take. The school still gets all the private sector foundation funding.
moral is low because of what he/she has to face in the classroom,[/quote]
again, b.S. the morale was low to begin with. The morale factor has not changed one iota since the same bad or difficult or challenging students are there. That has not changed. Why were they not a morale problem before? The schools after all that qualify for vouchers are in fact “failing” so how can morale be good in the first place?
Sorry this is not administration pressure. Either you pass or you do not pass but if you cannot do the simple math or language skills that are required, should you pass? or fail? allowing you to pass benefits you exactly how? makes you feel good about yourself?
What win? The school is already failing. Get that? That is when vouchers are allowed. The school is FAILING. Then if the school is failing what are the teachers going to do about it?
This is ridiculous. The schools that parents have their children in are already failing and you are saying if the school they choose is not available that giving them the choice in the first place is suddenly wrong. How does that make sense?
Why is that when according to your own figures the schools are getting $7700 per pupil NOT including foundation and grant money? Compare this with private schools, especially parochial ones and ask yourself where all that money is going.
YOu have that right. Why is it that Latino schools must have Latino principals and Blacks must have Blacks? I completely disagree. The schools should get the best administrators. That they do not is more about Democrat race-based policies. This would be much less likely to happen under a Republican.
See my points above.
I do not think that you have made a case for not supporting vouchers and question whether you understand them. Go back and read that site. You did not spend more than five minutes.
So then I sense that you agree with Republican initiated welfare reform but that has nothing to do with vouchers. You are giving parents a choice. Why is that so wrong? At worst, they ignore their children’s situation and leave them in the school that is already failing. It is not like the situation of the failing school is going to get any worse. BUT you could give the chance to those who care to get out of it.
I agree with all those statements. So why are you voting Democrat then?
Fine. Depending on how this is done, I would consider signing on.
That’s what vouchers are trying to do. When a school is failing, what do you suggest? We have tried to implement accountability with little success. Very hard to fire teachers. Why? AND if the teachers and schools are failing, explain to me how it is fair to expect the children there to stay. Removing them is the only way to reforming. When there are no pupils, then the school will ultimately pay the price for its failed policies.
This is exaggerated. What? Getting students to be able to prove that they have mastered basic math and language skills is prepping them for tests? If they could not pass these tests before, the question must become why not. If you cannot handle basic math and language then what chance do you have of geting into a good college or university?
Why? The schools already have enough money. Why should they get more? I think we need to be asking why public schools get as much money as elite private schools and do so pisspoorly with the funding they get. How’s that for a question?