Race and Dating Stats

This is not about the report that claims that “Taiwan girls are easy” but it looks like it is somewhat related to the underlying issue:
“race” and dating 1
“race” and dating 2
:2cents:

Mod Note* This is the second time one of these links was posted in the last 24 hrs. Msleft posted the second link in the Taiwan Girls Are Easy thread, but I accidentally deleted it. It was re-posted by Yuli in a temp thread. IMO, these links are of enough interest to people that they may as well have their own thread, so I’ve moved them here.

Interesting, thanks for sharing.

do you really need to use the word “race” ?

They use the word, like most people typically do :idunno:
(I put it in quotation marks, however, because i think that it is a superficial concept that is not scientifically supportable)…

I’m going to guess that language and culture are more important than race in any of these graphs. Are they controlling for geographic location? If they are, I may have missed it.
It just seems that anyone would be more likely to write back to someone who writes to them articulately, in their own language.

Race is a scientifically supportable idea. There are certain genetic markers that are more likely to appear in the different races. The studies I’ve read have all referred to Asian, African, and European. “More likely” means significantly less than 100%, but that does not mean scientifically invalid.

But “race” is DEFINITELY a sociologically valid idea. If you tell someone “I’m white/black/Asian/Indian/Chinese/Native American/whatever”, people have some idea of what you will look like. I’d agree about it being superficial, though not everyone agrees, making it important sociologically.

[quote=“spitzig”]Race is a scientifically supportable idea. There are certain genetic markers that are more likely to appear in the different races. The studies I’ve read have all referred to Asian, African, and European. “More likely” means significantly less than 100%, but that does not mean scientifically invalid.

But “race” is DEFINITELY a sociologically valid idea. If you tell someone “I’m white/black/Asian/Indian/Chinese/Native American/whatever”, people have some idea of what you will look like. I’d agree about it being superficial, though not everyone agrees, making it important sociologically.[/quote]
Sites which refer to “native american” or “hispanic” are generally assuming that everyone participating is “American.” The differentiation between “Pacific Islander” and “black” is also weird. I think they’ve substitued the latter in place of the usual “African American” and forgotten to note the skin colour of most Pacific Islanders. In other words, their definitions of race are culturally-skewed. Even if the data is (are, sorry) from different countries, they are treating everybody as if they are culturally the same.

All the same, it’s a pretty good data set, nicely presented, and very interesting. It would be cool to see how data from different countries compares. The Forumosa Friends (actually World Friends Network) data would be fascinating.

I think this is, by default, about the US and Canada…

Makes sense - but i cannot say anything about this since i haven’t seen any data concerning language(s). It is, however, possible that everybody uses English, since the service these statistics relate to appears to have been set up with a focus on people who live in the US (maybe also including Canada). It is also possible that the staff excluded poeple who don’t live in either of these countries from the data set they analyzed (although i don’t think i’ve seen any comment to that effect).

Not if you mean by “race” what is on this list (their list): Asian, Black, Hispanic/Latin, Indian, Middle Eastern, Native American, Other, Pacific Islander, White
Here is a similarly composed list of “races” for comparison: European, Brown, Anglo, Arabian, Central American, Native Asian, Other, Caribbean Islander, Yellow
:smiley:

Right. This is from a service aimed at “Americans”…
:slight_smile:

Very interesting read but is it too strange for a minority to be less accepted than a white person in America? Not to be racist but people like people with similar traits to themselves. The fact that white people prefer white people as partner should not be shocking. I think if this survey were in Taiwan, the result would be even more heavy for Taiwanese man/women. Taiwanese even consider other Asian countries like Vietnam and Philippines to be lower much like how Americans regard Mexicans.

Don’t overlook that the purpose of that display is not to make judgements about what is acceptable (reasonable, understandable, what-have-you) but only to show the difference between what people say about “interracial” dating and what they do (and only the first step of “doing” is represented here: the data show(s) under what conditions people reply to messages they receive).

blog.okcupid.com/index.php/the-r … ople-like/

i find this chart (click the male and female icon) particularly hilarious… although possibly it’s a projection of values meant to attract rather than reality.

what’s more interesting is the reading/literacy levels v. religion v. seriousness about religion ie. the most serious religious are the least able to write well.

[quote=“Jack Burton”] blog.okcupid.com/index.php/the-r … ople-like/
i find this chart (click the male and female icon) particularly hilarious… and indicative of how white-washed I am. lol /half-joking[/quote]
And i was surprised to see that virtually nothing on those charts is related to my own life :ponder: (But then, i am not “American”…)
I guess i could call myself “someone who lives on the tail of the bell curve” (that could replace the label “space cadet” that i have been using for myself from time to time :wink: )

I particularly enjoyed those math nerds’ sense of humour…

another funny comment, all thanks to stats:

Filipinos lean more to the Hispanic side of things than the East Asian, in my experience. My grandmother (in the U.S.) mistook her Filipina nurse for a Mexican. I didn’t bother correcting her. A very common mistake - most people in the U.S. think that Filipinos are from somewhere in Latin America.

Regarding language/English, I think some people are assuming that there is a kind of monolithic version of English spoken or written by all Americans. Language, whether “formal” in the sense of grammar, or in terms of accent, is a filtering tool or class marker. I know it’s terribly politically incorrect for me to admit this (and you all know how much it pains me to be politically incorrect), but I wouldn’t respond to someone of my own nationality (or from another English speaking country) who couldn’t write a coherent sentence. This is because, rightly or wrongly, it would probably say a lot more about a person than just that. I don’t think I’d be the only one who would draw a wider inference about someone who cannot distinguish your from you’re. Look at statistics about high school graduation rates, English test scores, etc. and race within North America. I’d say that language is very much a factor.

Incidentally, the fourth most mentioned thing in the profiles of Pacific Islander women is kickboxing. :astonished: