was never 40 mins though, almost 2 hrs (which is still decently fast). All non HSR crossborder trains are still suspended and there is no sign of resumption
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Wait, which line in the PRC is that? Do you have a source for me to learn more?
Guy
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there u go mate, the earlier rolling stock was based on shinkansen.
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From the above wiki entry:
Kawasaki won an order for 60 train sets based on its E2 Series Shinkansen for Ā„9.3 billion.[41] Of the 60 train sets, three were directly delivered from Nagoya, Japan, six were kits assembled at CSR Sifang Locomotive & Rolling Stock, and the remaining 51 were made in China using transferred technology with domestic and imported parts.
Whoops. 
Guy
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Itās their speciality: buy stuff from abroad, reverse engineer it, and then prop them up with domestic pieces. They r good at that, Iāll give them that
Yeah the HSR is new. Around two years old, I believe.
The express train was equivalent to TRAās čŖå¼·č which was just a normal train with less stops in between. I donāt think those trains have run in a while.
It wasnāt very fast. Two hours, I think? The HSR can get you to Shenzhen in like 15 minutes, Guangzhou in 45 minutes, and Shanghai in 5 hours. Nobody really flies to Shanghai anymore.
I mean, the Hong Kong government didnāt āsurrenderā any land to China. They are leasing one floor of the train station to Chinese Customs to set up their passports checkpoint. Itās not like the Chinese forced the HK government at gunpoint.
The alternative would have been for Hong Kong Customs to rent a floor in the Shenzhen Futian HSR station which wouldnāt make any sense if people were coming into HK directly from Shanghai or whatever.
You are officially under mainland china jurisdiction there, not a mere lease. Chinese law apply there and mainland chinese police forces enforce mainland chinese laws there. There has been s huge uproar about the constitutionality of such a move, but ofc it went through.
Yeah, they didnāt need, hkgov did the patriotic thing ahead of timesā¦
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That goes without saying. Itās a customs checkpoint. But itās a restricted area like in the airport. Chinese law also applies at the Chinese consulate in HK, and at the PLA headquarters in Wan Chai.
Besides, an ordinary Hong Kong citizen wouldnāt just wander into that floor unless they had a ticket to board the train. In which case, they would be in the same situation whether the check-point is located before getting on the train in HK or after getting off the train in China.
Nope, it is not a mere customs check point. Iāve been through there. And it is not even like US advance TSA clearance points like in Ireland or Dubai.
The station area is divided between HK port and mainland port, once you are in mainland port, that exclusive mainland jurisdiction, you are already technically already in mainland china, HK police force cannot even cross the demarcation line. Mainland police force will deal with u according to mainland laws and for whatever dispute, u will be transferred to mainland courts, even if you are still in the very heart of HK.
In other customs areas u r still under jurisdction of the host country, here not.
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They were talking about this in 2007? Guess that confirms what everybody already knew Bilingual 2030 is a joke 
So what, there are apartments and people living in there? And Chinese companies and schools and hospitals?
Again, that goes without saying. Same thing if someone walks into the American consulate in Hong Kong. The HK police cannot go in there. The consulate is under US law. Once you go inside, you are in US jurisdiction. If youāre wanted by the FBI youād better not step foot in the US consulate.
Because didnāt have to
Again here, not true. Consulate and diplomatic posts enjoy extraterritoriality, and local police force may enter upon authorisation according to the vienna convention.
Laws of the host country still apply there and you canāt be tried for a crime committed in a diplomatic post a countey A if the crime is also not a crime in the host country B, since they would never extradite you, u would be basically a prisoner only in the diolomatic post since as soon as u get out of it u would be under the host country jurisdiction and liberated by the host country. A huge diplomatic uproar, and in serious cases the host countru might even revoke the extraterritorial privileges of the post and force entrance (that would be basically an act of war, but it is technically possible).
You have a rather confused idea of diplomatic conventions and havenāt read the agreement and ordinance establishing the mainland port area of west kowloon terminus (which I did instead, i have a boring life tbh and even more boring hobbies).
Those r the facts, diplomatic posts are not considered (and cannot be) part of the territory of the country they respresent. They enjoy certain immunities and privileges clearly enunciated in the vienna convention (like diplomatic senior personnel).
In the case of west kowloom mainland port area it has been a de facto transfer of jurisdiction where hk authorities surrendered control to mainland authorities in clear contravention of the basic law and the sino-british joint declaration. The prc can according to them only hold a military presence in the region for defence purposes but the military personnel cannot be deployed unless authorised and asked by the chief executive.
Here instead u have mainland police force enforcing mainland law on hk territory (against article 14 of the basic law).
Have a look urself
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I guess my life is a little bit more exciting than yours, so Iāll just believe you.
In any case, the problem will resolve itself in 24 years.
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Great throne time reading though
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A reporter from Nikkei Asia went to have a look at different SEZs (special economic zones) including the one near Boten to see how things were playing out following the railway construction. Itās a wild read.
Guy
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