https://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/27/nyregion/27upstate.html?_r=1&hp
Republican losers (Palin, Armey, etc.) are all coming together to try to beat a N.Y. congressional candidate. What gives?
Amazing that the second somebody comes out who doesn’t play the same losing game, the Republicans join forces to try to ruin 'em.
Dick Armey is simply a vile excuse for a human being. :raspberry: I look forward to his departure from politics.
Michelle Malkin apparently really hates Dede: michellemalkin.com/2009/10/20/de … fava-liar/
Malkin is also trying to call Dede Scozzafava a “radical leftist”. I guess that’s what you do if you don’t have a large vocabulary of epithets.
Dede’s won the Margaret Sanger Award. 
I’d suggest you step out of the fever swamp and learn that this is a huge fight on the right and not a case of the right eating their own. I know you won’t because that would mess up your confirmation bias and cause cognitive dissonance.
*The conservative is also in the lead and Dede and the democrat are running attack ads against him and not each other.
*There was also that police report incident with the Weekly Standard reporter.
Doesn’t look good for Dede. Last week’s polls had her trailing Owens by 5 points and leading Hoffman by 7 points. The latest polls have her trailing Hoffman by 11 points and Owens by 12.
So does it really count as ‘eating your own’ when Dede’s ratings took a nose dive in and her chance of winning is unlikely (especially since her campaign tried to get that journalist arrested for insistently questioning her)?
Dede Scozzafava suspends 23rd district campaign
The Siena poll can be found here. Scozzafava dropped from a 35% support rating at the beginning of October down to 20% now. Even with a margin of error of plus or minus 3.7, Scozzafava had no chance of winning. We’ll see if she throws her support behind Hoffman or not.
Michael Steele said the GOP would…
Yes, but Scozzafava didn’t. She’s supporting Bill Owens in the race. This is going to be a close race. We’ll see how it ends up.
Regarding the declining poll numbers for Dede, that probably comes from the massive smear campaign that the Republican orthodoxy had put out for her – when Malkin, Limbaugh and Hannity are devoting massive airtime and column inches to targeting a Republican candidate as “not Republican enough” eventually some of the mud is going to stick.
If Dede goes back against them, that would be an interesting instance of the moderate Republican biting 'em back for trashing her.
But the Republicans have had a past history of smashing up decent candidates – look back to 2000 for the most famous example, back when McCain was targeted for destruction by the Bush campaign in the South Carolina primaries with “push polling” tactics suggesting to receptive GOP voters the stories that McCain’s adopted Bangladeshi daughter was actually a “mixed-race love child”, that he had mentally snapped while a POW, and that McCain had been a collaborator working with the North Vietnamese during his captivity. In comparison, about the worst thing that Democrats came up with against McCain in 2008 was that he had a hot temper and that actuarial science would tend to indicate that Palin would be the president shortly – the rest of McCain’s flop was just McCain being himself.
But instead of being an evolving party. From its origins as an antislavery party with Lincoln as its first elected president to its present-day incarnation as a fringe group emailing out photos of Obama as a “shoeshine boy”, in tribal costumes with a bone through his nose, or showing him in “whiteface” as Tainan Cowboy likes to display in his avatar these days, I supose we must acknowlege the GOP is a party of massive, massive change. Let’s hope the GOP can change again, this time for the better.
I often wonder the fever swamps you must troll to come up with these ideas about people you don’t know, don’t want to know and have no inclination to understand.
redstate.com/erick/2009/11/0 … play-nice/
McCain was a total dud of a candidate. The left was just upset that they didn’t get the Goreacle to beat the Mr. McGoo of politics.
[quote]or showing him in “whiteface” as Tainan Cowboy likes to display in his avatar these days[/quote]originally done by a Palestinian liberal unimpressed with Obama. What is “whiteface” anyway? I’ve never heard any reference to it.
I’d explain more but you have neither the inclination nro desire to understand the real dynamics of the race.
Are you just willfully ignorant to the hatefilled descriptions of John McCain that filled not only this expat website but every left wing haunt on the planet. If the avatar used by an American expat in Taiwan is somehow indicitive of the entire Republican Party, then you cannot possibly divorce yourself and your party from the disgusting things said about John McCain and his family. The same goes for some provacative placards used by some protestors. If they are emblematic of the Republican party, then every sign used protesting George Bush also represents the Democratic party, and I know quite a few that were at least as offensive as anything I’ve seen depicting Barrack Obama.
If you want to have a discussion about the interparty dynamics of the Republican party, let’s do that. But if you’re just posting ANOTHER “Republicans are bad” thread, then add it to the pile and quit acting as if you are adding something to the debate.
On the contrary, I am not only quite aware of what Dems said about McCain but also aware that the Republicans took their attacks on McCain back in 2000 to far worse levels. McCain’s main weaknesses (as exploited by Dems) were: 1) he’s old; and 2) he has a heck of a nutty temper. Regarding McCain’s lack of judgment in selecting Sarah Palin, I think he did that one to himself.
Actually, that avatar is being used all over the place. And interestingly enough it has been banned from many websites (Flickr) for the specific concern that it shows Obama in “whiteface”. But, hey, if those who don’t like Obama are stuck with a limited written vocabulary for doing so (“Socialist”, “Kenyan”, etc.) and feel that racially charged imagery is the way to do it, it sure doesn’t seem like the GOP is going in the right direction.
Interesting. I’m actually posted quite a bit on the topic with the thinking that McCain was actually a good candidate for president and that in 2000 it was a shame that the GOP “ate its own” by smearing him out of existence in the southern primaries. I think I can divorce myself from that. I do think he would’ve been far better than “Dubya” as a president.
Please provide anything you think are the direct equivalent of Obama being depicted with a bone through his nose, Obama being depicted shining shoes, Obama being depicted in whiteface, Obama being depicted as Hitler, etc. Let’s see what you think is “at least as offensive”.
Actually, I’m trying to discuss the intraparty dynamics of the Republican party. We have seen plenty of what the GOP can do when it faces an external opponent, but I think this thread is about what the GOP does to its own.
Actually, I’m discussing how Republicans are being bad to Republicans. I don’t think that is good for the GOP. But if you truly think there are many such threads already existing, please point them out and a moderator can surely find a way to combine the threads.
Putting Obama in whiteface has been acknowledged in a lot of places as racially charged, and the image has been banned by several sites precisely because of the racial issue raised by it. Other sites have not banned it, including this one. But then I realize there’s quite a large market for old Looney Tunes and Merry Melodies cartoons in which it was apparently thought very funny in 1930s and 1940s America to display Bugs Bunny and other characters in blackface and doing Al Jolson “Jazz Singer” imitations - a bit of humor that I’d thought long dead and gone.
As I was born after Brown v. Board of Ed, I suppose I must be of a different generation where I don’t see the humor. But others are free in this society to find other things funny.
Are you saying Fcom is a left wing haunt?
all for the name Dick Armey (hehehe) being in the news as much as possible.
I can’t argue with that.
The censorship of images doesn’t surprise me at all. If you want me to defend inarticulate and foolish arguments thrown at Barrack Obama, I won’t. I know there are a lot of people who have nothing other to say except a few cliched phrases. Now will you come out and say the same about George Bush haters (“Fascist”, “War Criminal”) then we’ll be on the same page. 
I can’t figure out how to post pictures (it’s late, give me a break) but I have some on my computer I’d be more than happy to post.
Vocabulary correction accepted.
Not at all. Fcom is an expat website, and expats tend to swing left. I don’t think that’s an inaccurate statement. I can’t find anything now, but I do remember seeing numerous reports about expat political affiliations. I don’t want to say any numbers because I don’t have them, but it wasn’t exactly an even distribution. Maybe in the 80’s or the 90’s there were more Republicans overseas, but today, I know about five, maybe.
And MOFA, why do you keep referring to this “whiteface” thing. Have you seen the movie “The Dark Knight”? It’s really quite good.
Regarding domestic American political affiliations, it would appear that only a very small (20 to 21%) of Americans identifies themselves as being “Republican” anymore. Perhaps the United States has simply swung away from the GOP. Now, you can call that remaining 80% “left” but it seems that a vast amount of the center has also departed the Republican party.
But talking about the numbers of “Republicans” overseas is a drop in the bucket. The forumosa.com community includes a heck of a lot of people from countries other than the U.S. with political positions that are often a bit different than just a “right versus left” calculus. I vote Democratic, but then I’m also a pro-life, pro-law-and-order, libertarian gunowner (stateside, not here). I’ve reached my own decisions about what things are important to me, and I found the Republican party to be far too inconsistent:
I own guns stateside, but I don’t agree with the NRA’s and GOP’s mindless advocacy for no limits whatsoever on firepower. Part of that viewpoint is in line with the cops who don’t like those “cop-killer” bullets like the talon that some of these guys have such a hardon for.
I’m prolife, and part of that is also my rejection of government executions. I’m also fiscally conservative, so I don’t like the GOP guys running up millions in legal bills just to keep the electric chair humming.
I’m libertarian enough to want the government off my phone lines and out of my bedroom. I like privatization where it makes sense, but I’ve also seen what happens when you don’t have safeguards against the mob taking all the garbage contracts and then dumping all the hazardous stuff wherever they want.
I don’t really think of Americans living overseas as being “liberal” or “conservative” – I think of them as Americans. Many of them have complex and nuanced positions on issues of importance to themselves and our nation.
Put a black man in white makeup, and you’ve got “whiteface”, the oppposite of the “blackface” used by white entertainers in the 1920s and 1930s to put on imitations of blacks. Have you see the movie “The Jazz Singer”? It was the first-ever “talkie” movie, and the music is quite good, but I’m not comfortable with Al Jolson in blackface.