Retirement savings goal

I focus more on long term needs/reality to break the psychological hold money has on me. For example , I ask myself,”Do I have enough to pay ten years rent where I am now?”

Yes?

Ok, if I can pay rent I can eat.

What do my dividends bring in per year?

Ok, that much, and that will only grow as I reinvest.

I watch the market daily and I’d like to not do that— so it’s not like the psychological factor about not being a good provider doesn’t entirely go away, even when you’re set for the next decade or two.

I honestly try not to live in too much comfort, as you never know what life at 80 will look like. When my SS and my teachers pension kick in, maybe less worry then.

All in all, pretty chill. :smiling_face_with_sunglasses:

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I have enough cash on hand for 10 years rent, most parts of the world.

By any reasonable standard (non douchebag standards at least), I have more than enough. Intellectually, I know this.

I guess a better way to phrase it is I’m wondering how people’s financial plans / expectations matched reality in retirement, at what percentages of pre/post retirement income.

I never figured it out that way. Just eyeballed it. I have more than I ever thought I would have and probably more than I will ever need. I know my spending habits and have no desire to see the entire world before I die. Just not caught up in the percentages. That level of attention to detail would result in hair loss.

Psychologically, IMO, the thing that gets people is to retire and then live in the same way they have been living without change. Everything changes, especially your mindset. Changing my behavior and mindset before I retired was more important than knowing percentages as what I wanted has little to do with money.

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Well that must mean you have US$ millions of cash on hand then. :sweat_smile:

Because you think it’d take more than US $200k / year to be able to rent in most parts of the world?

Being retired sounds great, being able to do all the things one wants without the time pressure of work…

However, I have retired twice already, and after 1 year the first time and just 6 months the second time, I have started up a new company :rofl: :rofl:

Reason is that a hobby, for example Golf, is really funny to play when planning the opportunities to play, but less fun when one can go out every day :wink: Golf is just an example of a hobby.

So think not only about money, but also what is your goal? What do you want to achieve when you have retired? Being a scratch golf player? Learning to speak French? A goal(s) in life is important

And sorry, coming back to your money question, things always turns out more expensive than planned, so ensure to take your full money planning and then add on a hefty safety margin, just in case as you don’t want to spend the retirement to worry about cash, if you could have avoided it by working in the salt mine for just one more year before retiring

Just my 2 cents, sharing some of my experiences, but all experiences are different so maybe not useful to others

Semi-retirement is a useful step if it can be worked out with work etc.

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Few million USD a yr in savings interest is enough

Sure, but getting there is the tricky part for most folks.

I am sorry you have no way of knowing this without knowing the specifics of the person retiring and what they expect to be burning (i.e. spending) in the upcoming years.

Guy

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Inheritance one day, four public sector pensions one day, gold bars bought when gold was much cheaper, and some tax free investments. And real estate. I work in my late 40s because I like to shape/influence policy. And probably will until my 70s. Mother works in her mid 70s for a few hours a day and makes more than I do.

The mind is a terrible thing to waste, and I think retirement, unless you are really driven, leads to poorer health overall. Briefing cabinet members in Canada—always a high.

For any Brits out there.

Suggest u pay into UK pension. I pay £14 a month……

How so low? Before I quit paying into it I was paying around 700 pounds for each qualifying year. That was a fair few years ago as well.

I think Class 3 contributions if you are overseas are £17.75 per week for the 2025-2026 tax year.

I must have been had, then.

EDIT: Oh, per week. Perhaps that makes more sense.

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You guys are right. Now I’ve checked - it is a bit more than the £14 I posted.
I pay £17 ish a month - not per week.

I still don’t see how that’s possible. How are you only paying 17 pounds a month?

Slightly outdated in pricing (up to 17 pound now for Class 3) but think it depends on when you left the UK?

Most common is either Class 2 or Class 3 contributions: Class 2 will be cheaper, but even if you are assessed as Class 3 it’s still worth doing.

Class 2 Annually: £163.80 (GBP) - £3.15 per week
Class 3 Annually: £824.20 (GBP) - £15.85 per week

Which will I pay: Class 2 or Class 3?

Living and working abroad Class 2 - but only if you worked in the UK immediately before leaving, and you’ve previously lived in the UK for at least 3 years in a row or paid at least 3 years of contributions
Living abroad but not working Class 3 - but only if at some point you’ve lived in the UK for at least 3 years in a row or paid at least 3 years of contributions

UK State pension - Am I class 2 or Class 3 | Askaboutmoney.com - the Irish consumer forum

Guys:

Jan. £13.80
Feb. £17.25
March £13.80
April. £17.25

This is what I’ve paid for the past 4 months. Monthly totals.
I left the UK 29 years ago….
I’m class 3

7 years ago, I wrote to UK.gov and told them I don’t work much and these (approx) have been my numbers ever since.

You are clearly on Class 2. You worked in the UK immediately before leaving 19 years ago is the likely reason.

Ok. Class 2. Thx.