In the realm of the political senses it isn
[quote=“OutofChaos”]Calling the President a liar in a regionally televised commercial, Mrs. Sheehan effectively closed the door on any potential meeting with the President. It just doesn
True. She should have saved those questions for the televised, live face to face.
[quote=“OutofChaos”]Calling the President a liar in a regionally televised commercial, Mrs. Sheehan effectively closed the door on any potential meeting with the President. It just doesn
Two things bush lacks.
You assume that a meeting with the President was actually her goal. Perhaps her goal was merely to publicly criticize the President in a rather damning way, in which case she did a pretty good job.
Had she managed to get a prime time online meeting and saved it for then, of course that would have been even more damaging, but Shrub’s handlers are much too astute to allow that to happen.
I understand your point Jaboney, but it
I think they edited out the liar bit. I just saw the ad on Meet the Press, and it was word-for-word what you posted, except the part about Bush being a liar. Maybe they decided to tone it down?
In a way, it doesn’t matter… I think, in the beginning, Sheehan really did want a meeting with Bush, but a meeting now would only assuage the national attention that is now fueling her cause. Therefore, it doesn’t matter whether calling Bush a liar would close the door on a potential meeting with him.
Plus, Bush really is a liar. 
OutofChaos,
Can you post the source where you got the commercial transcript?
I’d appreciate it.
[quote=“Danimal”]OutofChaos,
Can you post the source where you got the commercial transcript?
I’d appreciate it.[/quote]
I don’t know about a transcript, but here is the video itself. (Right-click and Save as)
I think Meet the Press did the editing. Shame if so. That would really be editorializing the facts of the report.
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Thanks Tetsuo and OCC…
This was Sheehan a year ago:
thereporter.com/news/ci_2923921
[quote]… in the end, the family decided against such talk, deferring to how they believed Casey would have wanted them to act. In addition, Pat noted that Bush wasn’t stumping for votes or trying to gain a political edge for the upcoming election.
“We have a lot of respect for the office of the president, and I have a new respect for him because he was sincere and he didn’t have to take the time to meet with us,” Pat said.
“I now know he’s sincere about wanting freedom for the Iraqis,” Cindy said after their meeting. “I know he’s sorry and feels some pain for our loss. And I know he’s a man of faith.”
The trip had one benefit that none of the Sheehans expected. For a moment, life returned to the way it was before Casey died. They laughed, joked and bickered playfully as they briefly toured Seattle. For the first time in 11 weeks, they felt whole again.
“That was the gift the president gave us, the gift of happiness, of being together,” Cindy said. [/quote]
So, she had her meeting, she was pleased at how it went, she chose to honor her son’s beliefs by not ranting at Bush, but now a year later she’s out on a media tour.
Yet her family seems to disapprove of her actions:
timesheraldonline.com/ci_2936009
[quote]Family members of Sheehan denounced her actions Thursday in an e-mail quickly distributed worldwide by Internet and mainstream media.
“We do not agree with the political motivations and publicity tactics of Cindy Sheehan. She now appears to be promoting her own personal agenda and notoriety at the expense of her son’s good name and reputation.”[/quote]
Text of a speech that Sheehan gave to a group called “Veterans for Peace”:
veteransforpeace.org/convent … script.htm
(Note: the context is that this is what she wants to say to Bush, and/or to have Bush “admit” to her.)
One year. What a difference. I cannot imagine the feeling of loss a parent has when a child is gone. Perhaps her loss is expressing itself in this way. I don’t know. Lots of pain, and hurt, and more than a little bitterness. I wish her well and hope she is able to find comfort sooner than later.
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Those “family members” are her in-laws, who apparently already had a bad relationship with her and disagreed politically with her long before this.
They include the grandparents of the slain Marine.
So are some blood relatives more equal than others? Does his mom get a free pass to spit on her son’s sacrifice just because she lost him? “Hey, kid, you were dumb as a rock to enlist, and now you’ve died for a lie.” Great mom.
[quote=“OutofChaos”]Calling the President a liar in a regionally televised commercial, Mrs. Sheehan effectively closed the door on any potential meeting with the President. It just doesn
No, not every person who has a gripe; not every person who is against the war. But enough of the families left behind to gain Powell’s level of appreciation for the human costs of war.
Well David Duke supports her too:
[quote]Why Cindy Sheehan is Right!
By David Duke
Cindy Sheehan, a mother who lost a son in the Iraq War, is determined to prevent other mothers and fathers from experiencing the same loss.
Courageously she has gone to Texas near the ranch of President Bush and braved the elements and a hostile Jewish supremacist media to demand a meeting with him and a good explanation why her son and other