# Rude Taiwanese co-worker **URL:** \ **Category:** Working in Taiwan\ **Created:** [May 18, 2023, 12:16pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/rude-taiwanese-co-worker/230391 "2023-05-18T12:16:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![anon24369109](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@anon24369109](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/anon24369109)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2023, 4:34am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/rude-taiwanese-co-worker/230391/181 "2023-05-27T04:34:46Z")
Unless Taiwan opens up it’s banking comparable systems like Singapore it will be hard to attract companies to setup a regional HQ in Taiwan. Works permits are not the issue really. ---
**Author:** ![anon24369109](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@anon24369109](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/anon24369109)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2023, 4:38am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/rude-taiwanese-co-worker/230391/182 "2023-05-27T04:38:52Z")
> [@user86](#): > > Perhaps, but it’s also due to the fact that companies currently can’t easily obtain employment visas for high-level expats. It’s never been difficult to do so. Many of them here up to 2010. They were here training local replacements which cost far less than expats and it’s not like Taiwanese are not well educated with undergrad and post grad degrees from abroad. ---
**Author:** ![user86](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/2acd7d/32.png) [@user86](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/user86)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2023, 4:44am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/rude-taiwanese-co-worker/230391/183 "2023-05-27T04:44:52Z")
> [@anon24369109](#): > > Unless Taiwan opens up it’s banking comparable systems like Singapore it will be hard to attract companies to setup a regional HQ in Taiwan. Yeah that’s true. That’s probably a huge setback too, along with NTD not being openly tradable. ---
**Author:** ![TT](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tt/32/271883_2.png) [@TT](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/TT)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2023, 5:01am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/rude-taiwanese-co-worker/230391/184 "2023-05-27T05:01:18Z")
> [@user86](#): > > If you’re going to set up a Greater China regional office, wouldn’t it make more sense to do so in Greater China, where everybody speaks Chinese and eats Chinese food and understands Chinese culture? I think those superficial advantages don’t outweigh the costs. ---
**Author:** ![anon24369109](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@anon24369109](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/anon24369109)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2023, 5:01am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/rude-taiwanese-co-worker/230391/185 "2023-05-27T05:01:52Z")
> [@user86](#): > > That’s probably a huge setback too, along with NTD not being openly tradable. No that’s not really an issue with multicurrency accounts nowadays. ---
**Author:** ![Brianjones](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@Brianjones](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Brianjones)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2023, 5:04am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/rude-taiwanese-co-worker/230391/186 "2023-05-27T05:04:03Z")
China biz needs operation in China, they are a walled kingdom. Won’t work from Taiwan either. Place I work is failing badly trying to integrate China, Hk and Taiwan. The HK customers can’t stand mainlanders and use English for their business. You can imagine how little crossover there is then between China and Taiwan. I mean if you want to lose a deal by all means send a manager from taiwan to china or vice versa. ---
**Author:** ![OrangeOrganics](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/orangeorganics/32/206888_2.png) [@OrangeOrganics](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/OrangeOrganics)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2023, 5:38am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/rude-taiwanese-co-worker/230391/187 "2023-05-27T05:38:42Z")
Taiwan as a greater China hub doesn’t make sense in 2023. It made sense in the Ma era. Not that I’d want to go back to the Ma era. But it makes no sense anymore ---
**Author:** ![user86](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/2acd7d/32.png) [@user86](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/user86)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2023, 8:46am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/rude-taiwanese-co-worker/230391/188 "2023-05-27T08:46:25Z")
It will make sense next year when the KMT gets the presidency. ---
**Author:** ![Southernboy](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/southernboy/32/126619_2.png) [@Southernboy](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Southernboy)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2023, 8:50am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/rude-taiwanese-co-worker/230391/189 "2023-05-27T08:50:32Z")
But here, the office is a clique which you can be “in” or looking in. Eg. Although you’re not a huge bubble tea fan, you’re still a little sad you’ve never once asked. This, x10. There’s nothing you can complain about without looking petty yourself. And that’s why i work remotely. once a month take the HSR up to head office. \*check out my humble-brag ---
**Author:** ![Brianjones](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@Brianjones](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Brianjones)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2023, 7:39am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/rude-taiwanese-co-worker/230391/190 "2023-05-29T07:39:04Z")
I’m once every two years to the office. Humble humble brag. It’s been so long I wouldn’t recognise half the staff lol. ---
**Author:** ![therainmaker](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ba9def/32.png) [@therainmaker](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/therainmaker)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2023, 5:41am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/rude-taiwanese-co-worker/230391/191 "2023-07-26T05:41:16Z")
> [@user86](#): > > You’re basically saying he has poor English I don’t understand why Taiwanese find it OK to tell ABCs that they have poor Chinese. ---
**Author:** ![theyouhan](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/bb73d2/32.png) [@theyouhan](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/theyouhan)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2023, 5:43am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/rude-taiwanese-co-worker/230391/192 "2023-07-26T05:43:03Z")
Also the reason why since we started having WFH during the pandemic, I made sure to keep it. Lol. Will probably keep it that way until I leave this job. ---
**Author:** ![user86](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/2acd7d/32.png) [@user86](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/user86)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2023, 5:51am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/rude-taiwanese-co-worker/230391/193 "2023-07-26T05:51:04Z")
> [@therainmaker](#): > > I don’t understand why Taiwanese find it OK to tell ABCs that they have poor Chinese. Do they? In my experience they usually only ask that before finding out they are ABC. After finding out, they usually switch the question to “then why is your Chinese so good?” They do the opposite with me. They see a foreign face and ask why my Chinese is so good, and after finding out I grew up in HK, they ask me why it’s so bad. 😑 ---
**Author:** ![therainmaker](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ba9def/32.png) [@therainmaker](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/therainmaker)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2023, 6:35am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/rude-taiwanese-co-worker/230391/194 "2023-07-26T06:35:38Z")
> [@user86](#): > > they ask me why it’s so bad. It is an offensive comment. Most Taiwanese people think that any ethnic Chinese person is/should be fluent in Mandarin. ---
**Author:** ![therainmaker](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ba9def/32.png) [@therainmaker](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/therainmaker)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2023, 6:36am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/rude-taiwanese-co-worker/230391/195 "2023-07-26T06:36:49Z")
> [@user86](#): > > In my experience they usually only ask that before finding out they are ABC. Many Taiwanese people still somehow think that ABCs somehow fully understand Chinese culture. ---
**Author:** ![therainmaker](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ba9def/32.png) [@therainmaker](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/therainmaker)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2023, 6:37am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/rude-taiwanese-co-worker/230391/196 "2023-07-26T06:37:19Z")
> [@user86](#): > > Do they? In my experience they usually only ask that before finding out they are ABC. I think you have not seen enough cases. ---
**Author:** ![Quesito](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Quesito](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Quesito)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2023, 6:38am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/rude-taiwanese-co-worker/230391/197 "2023-07-26T06:38:10Z")
> [@therainmaker](#): > > It is an offensive comment. Most Taiwanese people think that any ethnic Chinese person is/should be fluent in Mandarin. How? Many old Taiwanese are no fluent in Mandarin. ---
**Author:** ![therainmaker](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ba9def/32.png) [@therainmaker](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/therainmaker)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2023, 6:39am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/rude-taiwanese-co-worker/230391/198 "2023-07-26T06:39:34Z")
When I moved back to Taiwan after spending nearly 20 years abroad, many still expected me to speak Mandarin and could not understand why my Mandarin was not fluent. ---
**Author:** ![user86](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/2acd7d/32.png) [@user86](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/user86)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2023, 7:30am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/rude-taiwanese-co-worker/230391/199 "2023-07-26T07:30:05Z")
> [@therainmaker](#): > > could not understand why my Mandarin was not fluent. You said “move back” so they probably assume you were born and raised here and lived here at least for some time as a child, and already spoke Mandarin before moving overseas? ---
**Author:** ![therainmaker](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ba9def/32.png) [@therainmaker](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/therainmaker)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2023, 8:11am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/rude-taiwanese-co-worker/230391/200 "2023-07-26T08:11:58Z")
I left when I was very little. I left when I was in the third grade. I did not receive any subsequent education in Mandarin. [Previous page](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/rude-taiwanese-co-worker/230391.md?page=9)