Search

Okay, I`m having problems with the search- I know for a fact that a couple of years ago there were posts by fred smith containing the terms Iraq Spanish French Catholics- so why do none of these show up when I search

Four show up when I try

Here’s the first one: [forumosa.com/taiwan/viewtopic.ph … 14&#400714](Is Bush losing the war in Iraq? - Part 3

[quote=“Goose Egg”]Four show up when I try

Here’s the first one: [forumosa.com/taiwan/viewtopic.ph … 14&#400714](Is Bush losing the war in Iraq? - Part 3

Okay, so the search is set up to make me look like an idiot. Just read your post, tried again for the umpteenth time and, voila-

I`ll chalk it up to sympathetic magic. Thanks!

Got this error when searching the Feedback Forum for “quote” just now:

Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 33554432 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 39 bytes) in /home/httpd/vhosts/forumosa.com/httpdocs/taiwan/search.php on line 484

While searching the Feedback Forum I got a “Have a cup of STFU” reply when I tried to post. :s


wish I had found this thread to add my own inquiry… I did a search before I posted actually (“curtains”, “custom curtains”), the results were totally useless (first page not relevant in the least, and tens of result pages… not very encouraging to look at following pages)…

Anyway, what I find on each topic I want to find / ask on Foromosa, the ‘search’ function sucks enormously.

I suppose there is a thread somewhere on Forumosa about the ‘search’ function :smiley:

Aye.

You need to select the most relevant forum, e.g., Where Can I Find…?, in order to pare the results down; and select Topics not Posts in this instance. When you learn how to do that kind of fine tuning, search results are SOOOO much better. :wink:

Aye.

You need to select the most relevant forum, e.g., Where Can I Find…?, in order to pare the results down; and select Topics not Posts in this instance. When you learn how to do that kind of fine tuning, search results are SOOOO much better. :wink:[/quote]

But many times still next to useless. I’m with Ectoplasma, and I wish the Forumosa search was more like Google search, where you can ask it to search for an exact phrase. With some things it’s not too difficult, but with others almost impossible to pin down the topic you want.

Still, there’s a wealth of info here and nice mods who know how to find old stuff and merge it. :slight_smile:

Yup. And that’s IF you actually get to a search results page…

  • For example, I just did a search on something, but all I get is an empty browser window, every time I try
  • Yesterday morning Forumosa was totally gone.
  • Forumosa is so incredibly slow sometimes, you have to wait 1 or 2 minutes for any page to load

May I suggest you give feedback in the Feedback Forum? Post your problems with the search function there and you are more likely to be heard. :wink:

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Yup. And that’s IF you actually get to a search results page…

  • For example, I just did a search on something, but all I get is an empty browser window, every time I try[/quote]
    What search terms were you using?

[quote=“Ectoplasma”]* Yesterday morning Forumosa was totally gone.

  • Forumosa is so incredibly slow sometimes, you have to wait 1 or 2 minutes for any page to load[/quote]
    We weren’t gone or slow because of search.

We are looking into making the forums Google friendly, so that in the near future you can just go ahead and use Google to search Forumosa :slight_smile:

That would be cool. I’m definitely interested in being able to put a string in quotes.

That would be cool. I’m definitely interested in being able to put a string in quotes.[/quote]Is the search database updated in real time? If not, that could be a bit of a pain.

I’m in the minority of those who find the current search function perfectly adequate most of the time. It’s very rarely that I can’t find a post I want to find, and that’s usually due to my own error.

It does help to remember key words from posts, and use the various search options such as specifying the author or the forum.

I think so, but you would only be referring to the index words list - and the blocked words list. Blocked words are search terms that are removed from the index so that they do not kill our CPU. For example, a search for “Taiwan” should bring up 0 results, or at least something not meaningful. There is a formula that the forum uses to add words to the block list, but I forget how this works (I don’t think I completely understood it when I read about it). You can read about how the search works for yourselves by going to www.phpBB.com

I think so, but you would only be referring to the index words list - and the blocked words list. Blocked words are search terms that are removed from the index so that they do not kill our CPU. For example, a search for “Taiwan” should bring up 0 results, or at least something not meaningful. There is a formula that the forum uses to add words to the block list, but I forget how this works (I don’t think I completely understood it when I read about it). You can read about how the search works for yourselves by going to www.phpBB.com[/quote]I was talking about the Google search database! Obviously, regular Google searching of Forumosa doesn’t work very well as they just take snapshots of bits of the site from time to time. Would making Forumosa more “Google-friendly”, as you plan, mean that that search database would be comprehensive and up-to-date? If not, using it could be a bit of a pain.

I think so, but you would only be referring to the index words list - and the blocked words list. Blocked words are search terms that are removed from the index so that they do not kill our CPU. For example, a search for “Taiwan” should bring up 0 results, or at least something not meaningful. There is a formula that the forum uses to add words to the block list, but I forget how this works (I don’t think I completely understood it when I read about it). You can read about how the search works for yourselves by going to www.phpBB.com[/quote]I was talking about the Google search database! Obviously, regular Google searching of Forumosa doesn’t work very well as they just take snapshots of bits of the site from time to time. Would making Forumosa more “Google-friendly”, as you plan, mean that that search database would be comprehensive and up-to-date? If not, using it could be a bit of a pain.[/quote]
I see. No, it wouldn’t be in realtime - it would be only as up to date as the last time Google spiders the forum

phpBB forums are not Google friendly. It has something to do with how the robots that search engines like Google use to index the website. The information in this forum is stored in a database, and each page that you read is dynamically generated from that database.

I’ve installed an archive of the website today that is supposed to make the website more friendly - www.forumosa.com/taiwan/archive - so give it a few weeks for the search engine robots to spider and index. However, it doesn’t seem to work the way I thought it should. There are other ways to make the forums search engine friendly - like permitting Google’s robot to login and do its thing. We used to permit this. For different reasons over time, we hadn’t bothered to re-install it. Maybe we will now

If you do drop by phpBB to learn more about how to better use this software, you will instantly notice that they are using the latest version of phpBB (called Olympus), which we have been waiting for since 2002. We will look to upgrade sooner or later - after we are satisfied that it’s stable and the features we like a there or have modifications written up already. Hopefully, the search is more efficient and sophisticated, too

I think so, but you would only be referring to the index words list - and the blocked words list. Blocked words are search terms that are removed from the index so that they do not kill our CPU. For example, a search for “Taiwan” should bring up 0 results, or at least something not meaningful. There is a formula that the forum uses to add words to the block list, but I forget how this works (I don’t think I completely understood it when I read about it). You can read about how the search works for yourselves by going to www.phpBB.com[/quote]I was talking about the Google search database! Obviously, regular Google searching of Forumosa doesn’t work very well as they just take snapshots of bits of the site from time to time. Would making Forumosa more “Google-friendly”, as you plan, mean that that search database would be comprehensive and up-to-date? If not, using it could be a bit of a pain.[/quote]
I see. No, it wouldn’t be in realtime - it would be only as up to date as the last time Google spiders the forum.[/quote]It doesn’t even get each and every page on regular websites, I believe, so I can’t imagine it would ever be able to do any better with a PhpBB site.

I’ll stick with the old search function for the moment – a bit clunky but at least I know I can find what I need.

FWIW, a photography forum I post on changed things to make the site search Google friendly a couple of years ago, and it actually made the search results worse than what it was before, resulting in a lot of complaints in their feedback forum. They persisted with it, and the search there works ok now, but still not great. And this is a site with over half a million registered members, 100 000 of which visit regularly - and pay a yearly fee.

If making things google friendly was so painful for them, you may want to leave things as they are.

[quote=“cfimages”]FWIW, a photography forum I post on changed things to make the site search Google friendly a couple of years ago, and it actually made the search results worse than what it was before, resulting in a lot of complaints in their feedback forum. They persisted with it, and the search there works ok now, but still not great. And this is a site with over half a million registered members, 100 000 of which visit regularly - and pay a yearly fee.

If making things google friendly was so painful for them, you may want to leave things as they are.[/quote]
That’s true - please post a link to that website’s feedback forum. I’d like to read about the problems people have. It’s still early enough to make changes