Secret service drills a kid over his "anti-Bush" photo

Doesn’t make the what happened to that kid any less messed up though, does it. It’s just him trying again to justify it by going “Well Clinton did it too!” Much like with just about anything anyone says against Bush.

Down! Heel!

Maybe it’s me, but I don’t see CS’s example more about Clinton pointing the people out, although that does show the SS listen to the boss, than it does about the SS’s power to remove and detain pretty much anyone they want.

Seems to me that the SS is acting pretty much the same now as they did before: like dickheads. They were cool when Clint Eastwood was one of them though. :sunglasses:

Although, I have heard that Comrade Stalin doesn’t really like Clinton, but that may be a rumor.
:wink:

Where did I say it was “alright”? Show me where. I guess it was just [i]too[/i] difficult for you to read my entire post or the included link, right? :unamused:

[quote=“Comrade Stalin”]
I suggest people read 18 USC Sec. 871…it gives the Secret Service a lot of latitude.

law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/ … -000-.html[/quote]

Now that kid is going to grow up hating Geoge Bush even more and will become a terrorist and assasinate him.

Oh… someone’s knocking on my door…

I seem to remember there were lots of squeals here when it was proposed to post photos on Flickr of members at Forumosa Happy Hours and activities. People were afraid to have their photos taken and published. I can’t find the thread but here is Maoman’s announcement:

[forumosa.com/taiwan/viewtopic.ph … ckr#361849](Forumosa's got Flickr!

So.

I wonder…

If I took a photo of someone posting on Forumosa or maybe their wife or child…and then tacked it to the wall with a red thumb tack through their head and then made a thumb’s-down sign with my own hand next to the photo and posted it here at Forumosa, I’d be banned and people here would be calling the police.

BTW, I posted a photo of my arm (with Photoshopped [color=red]red[/color] lines and a knife) being deleted. I think it offended someone.

I guess it is not “high maintainance” if “Friends of Cindy” do it. :smiling_imp:

Probably proposed for a suspension, at the very least. I doubt anyone would call the cops, just because a post like that wouldn’t last long enough on the forums to attract any attention, I hope. We try to get rid of the nasty stuff as quickly as possible.

This has nothing to do with dissent, BTW, but rather the privacy of our members. I think it’s a good policy, but there’s always the feedback forum if you think there’s something wrong with it. :idunno:

The Secret Service group assigned to the White House, both uniformed and non-uniformed, are assigned to the “Office of the President,” not to the individual POTUS. They protect members of the Presidential staff and family as well as members of Congress and Senate if needed.
Point being - The Office holders may change but the Secret Service members quite often remain on that particular assignment. The most common reason for a Secret Service member assigned to White House detail to leave the team is job ‘burn-out.’ Most are married and the demands of the assigment are not conducive to a family routine.
Being assigned as a member of a protective team for the highest profile world leader is not a task for those lacking in dedication. They are not in it for the money; its a Civil Service job - starting at, I believe GS-14 level - which ain’t all that much living in D.C. Perks are part of the deal - travel on a moments notice, shifts of 18 - 20 hours routinely, free Air Force 1 ash trays and glasses, Diplo-Red passports, being under scrutiny every minute of your day - whoopee…but for the people who chose to be put in rotation for the teams it can be the highlight of their career. And it looks very good on your resume’ (c.v.) after you leave the Treasury Department. (You did know that the U.S. Secret Service was a division of the Treasury Department?)

There is an old maxim in the personal security business - “We have to do it right everytime, they only have to do it right once.”

Ah, the classic completely incorrect and also entirely irrelevant comment.

[quote=“Comrade Stalin”]If I took a photo of someone posting on Forumosa or maybe their wife or child…and then tacked it to the wall with a red thumb tack through their head and then made a thumb’s-down sign with my own hand next to the photo and posted it here at Forumosa, I’d be banned and people here would be calling the police.[/quote]It is illegal to simply say “I want to kill the president” (I’ve seen “In the line of fire”) , even as a joke (like using the word “bomb” in an airport/aeroplane) but presumably you need to have more concrete plans in the case of other people ?

Probably proposed for a suspension, at the very least. I doubt anyone would call the cops, just because a post like that wouldn’t last long enough on the forums to attract any attention, I hope. We try to get rid of the nasty stuff as quickly as possible.

This has nothing to do with dissent, BTW, but rather the privacy of our members. I think it’s a good policy, but there’s always the feedback forum if you think there’s something wrong with it. :idunno:[/quote]

A photo as I descibed would not in anyway concern the privacy of anyone but rather their safety. It would be a very obvious threat.

There’s a difference between dissent and stupidity. Too bad neither the student or his teacher are able to know that difference.

Oh, c’mon. A kid pinning up a picture and giving the thumb down sign does not require the secret service to come to your home and make a mountain out of a molehill.

I don’t blame the Wal Mart employees. They’re no doubt told to report things and did so in fear of losing their jobs. It should’ve been left at that.

[quote=“j99l88e77”]Oh, c’mon. A kid pinning up a picture and giving the thumb down sign does not require the secret service to come to your home and make a mountain out of a molehill.

I don’t blame the Wal Mart employees. They’re no doubt told to report things and did so in fear of losing their jobs. It should’ve been left at that.[/quote]

I do blame the WalMart employee, and the local police. They all made a big deal about this and ultimately got the Secret Service involved. The Secret Service investigated the matter and decided it was nothing to worry about.

Why are some of you upset at the Secret Service?

I can’t believe anyone is actually defending the actions of the SS here. The poor kid was doing homework for a Bill of Rights assignment. What a sad statement about our rights. BTW, shouldn’t this be in the IP forum. Isn’t that where we usually keep Comrade Stalin?

[quote=“Tigerman”][quote=“j99l88e77”]Oh, c’mon. A kid pinning up a picture and giving the thumb down sign does not require the secret service to come to your home and make a mountain out of a molehill.

I don’t blame the Wal Mart employees. They’re no doubt told to report things and did so in fear of losing their jobs. It should’ve been left at that.[/quote]

I do blame the WalMart employee, and the local police. They all made a big deal about this and ultimately got the Secret Service involved. The Secret Service investigated the matter and decided it was nothing to worry about.

Why are some of you upset at the Secret Service?[/quote]

I re-read the article.

I originally mistook the above as if the secret service walked into the boy’s room at home. I think, however, they could’ve avoided going to the school.

Maybe the Wal Mart employee can’t make any comments because they are told by the home office to report anything and everything. Or maybe Wal Mart has a gung ho mentality. If the Wal Mart employee wasn’t given specific instructions to do so, then I do think he/she (she, I think) totally reacted out of hand. But… he/she could’ve let it slide. So… Who knows what actually happened there? Not us.

What about the local police? Sure, they’re “required” to report some things, but a police officer is at most times a “judgement of situation” job. I supposed if it were the NYPD they would’ve just told the Wal Mart employee to calm down, called the boy and asked him if he was a terrorist and gotten a good laugh out of it all.

All the secret service needed was a fax/scan of the photo and they could’ve asked the questions over the phone. Or no questions at all and just thrown their copy of the picture in the garbage and have a “secret” chuckle.

Maybe they’re still investigating it and checking out the parents. Because if the parents end up being terrorists then they would all be in trouble if something bad happens and they didn’t intercept the problem.

And the cycle continues.

The Thumbtack Kid. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck! :unamused:

i’m worried about bush AND walmart. that’s one scary mindwashing combo.

somebody start a walmart thread,please.

You guys are getting funny now…wanna buy some tinfoil?

Maybe everyone should be putting up signs like that. What would the SS do then?

Online shopping can facilitate dissent. Look here.
cafepress.com/shop/politics/

I’m so lame for not wearing clothes like that every day.