Recently I have been in contact with a man who has applied for a position at my school. After presenting excellent references from his previous job and a background in education, I did an internet search to find out more about this man. Shockingly, it turns out he has changed his name and has an extremely disturbing past. Needless to say, he should not be working with children in any capacity. However, that’s exactly what he’s been doing - teaching ESL to children in numerous countries. I am very concerned that he will be given another position teaching by an unsuspecting school, possibly in Taiwan.
Is there anywhere I can report this person or at least pass on information regarding his background to the CLA or some other agency? What do people do in this case?
Just to be clear, I am in no way opposed to people picking up their lives and moving forward - but in my eyes once you’ve been involved in crimes relating to children, you have lost the right to EVER work in close contact with children again.
I would appreciate any serious advice in how to deal with this problem. I feel doing nothing is not an option.
[quote=“vitalpenghu”]Recently I have been in contact with a man who has applied for a position at my school. After presenting excellent references from his previous job and a background in education, I did an internet search to find out more about this man. Shockingly, it turns out he has changed his name and has an extremely disturbing past. Needless to say, he should not be working with children in any capacity. However, that’s exactly what he’s been doing - teaching ESL to children in numerous countries. I am very concerned that he will be given another position teaching by an unsuspecting school, possibly in Taiwan.
Is there anywhere I can report this person or at least pass on information regarding his background to the CLA or some other agency? What do people do in this case?
Just to be clear, I am in no way opposed to people picking up their lives and moving forward - but in my eyes once you’ve been involved in crimes relating to children, you have lost the right to EVER work in close contact with children again.
I would appreciate any serious advice in how to deal with this problem. I feel doing nothing is not an option.[/quote]
You can report this to the National Immigration Agency (NIA). If there are no open warrants for him abroad the NIA will most likely not do anything unless they consider his presence in the ROC to be a threat to public safety and order. Your research can help the NIA to come to this conclusion. If he has no convictions in the ROC and lived a law abiding existence I doubt the NIA will come to the conclusion you hope for.
If he’s fiddled with kids or hurt them put his name up here so we know who he is. It’s not good enough to rely on the authorities, changing his name and coming to Taiwan , don’t let him get away with this. Once his cover his blown, he’ll fly the coop.
This is indeed a thorny problem. Legally, I’m not sure if anyone has the right to presume that a person will re-commit crimes in the future. Morally, however, we would feel that maybe they should be hanged.
Perhaps the best way forward is to notify all the major employers in Taiwan by email to warn them. I fear that the Government would be wary…as bad as some of us may feel about the Crime, the Law of many Countries would say the Ex-Criminal has rights also. I agree that , in this case, it is right to do “something” in the hope of reducing the risk.
You can of course post his/her name on here but he/she may have changed it to Headhoncho or Fred Smith, for instance
Did his crimes actually involve children? Or was he just fined for smoking pot or something. Those are 2 entirely different things. You haven’t given any specifics of what the guy did. That would be helpful to determine what, if anything, you should do.
[quote=“shiadoa”]This is indeed a thorny problem. Legally, I’m not sure if anyone has the right to presume that a person will re-commit crimes in the future. Morally, however, we would feel that maybe they should be hanged.
Perhaps the best way forward is to notify all the major employers in Taiwan by email to warn them. I fear that the Government would be wary…as bad as some of us may feel about the Crime, the Law of many Countries would say the Ex-Criminal has rights also. I agree that , in this case, it is right to do “something” in the hope of reducing the risk.
You can of course post his/her name on here but he/she may have changed it to Headhoncho or Fred Smith, for instance [/quote]
If he has no criminal record in Taiwan and you allege that he may commit such crimes again you commit the offense of libel, somewhere in the early 300s of the Criminal Code.
So be careful with what you write.
Additionally, leaking personal information is also a punishable offense under the Criminal Code.
If I were you i would get public records of his crimes and send them around without further comment.
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Appreciate your concern over this individual - but can you sum up his ‘extremely disturbing past’, and when it occured. What was the nature of these crimes involving children?
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You were quick off the mark, I don’t care what formumosa encourages , this may be a paedophile with a public conviction who has changed his name and moved to Taiwan , I don’t want him teaching kids here including my kids!
I hope this guy is not a member here unless you are encouraging paedophiles to change their names and join this community under false pretenses. Think a little before making moronic statements of your ‘policy’.
What is the OP doing about this now and what was the individual convicted of?
It should not be a problem for the OP to at least advise what his past is? No names need to be mentioned.
I am also interested to find out exactly how all this information was found out by a simple internet search?
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Do not post personal information about any other person even if that information is publicly available. This includes, but is not limited, to divulging personal information such as the real-life identity of other Forumosans, telephone numbers, or sexual orientation. In addition, Forumosa does not condone or encourage efforts by individuals to “dig up” information about other visitors. You may post the public contact information for public figures, but you may not post anyone’s private information without their consent. policy.forumosa.com/outing/#more-221[/quote]
You were quick off the mark, I don’t care what forumosa encourages , this may be a paedophile with a public conviction who has changed his name and moved to Taiwan , I don’t want him teaching kids here including my kids!
I hope this guy is not a member here unless you are encouraging paedophiles to change their names and join this community under false pretenses. Think a little before making moronic statements of your ‘policy’. [/quote]
Perhaps one might follow one’s own advice.
You would have the OP post someone’s name on the flob simply because that person MAY be guilty of a crime?
Get a grip.
Justice would best be served, if there is indeed proof of criminal activity, by the proper authorities, and not by some lynch mob on the flob.
The rule was cited as this is obviously not the place in which to pursue some sort of vigilante justice. Surely, one would accept that this would be a matter for Interpol or the local N.I.A. to pursue, and does not fall under the scope of this site.
If one does not care about this, or any other rule, then that is one’s right, but that hardly negates an enforcement of any of the rules. Which are not simply part of some arbitrary whim, but that of a well-thought out and long-standing procedure.
Most especially in a case such as this, where serious allegations are being made, seemingly from a review of internet sources. Proving guilt or innocence is a matter for the proper legal authorities, not for a public discussion forum. Naming names certainly contributes nothing to this end.
Res ipsa loquitor.
Well it depends on the severity of the alleged crimes, plus we can all google search ourselves since the person is allegedly using a false name in order to access children in Taiwan.
He may also be a member of this community. What’s your stance on that? Are you happy with pedophiles using this forum to access employment opportunities to access children. You have been warned of this , and what are you doing about it?!?
As you should be well aware of, pedophiles in many of their home jurisdiction are on registered sex offender lists which are publically available.
I suggest you get a grip and stop with your fantasies of Interpol or vigilante justice or competent police investigation.
I again remind members that we do have rules on this site ( policy.forumosa.com/ ). These rules are decided by the site owner, and the moderators use these rules when moderating.
In this case the OP acted appropriately and send a detailed PM to me, which I forwarded to the site owner and admin.
Based on the OP’s reputation, her own public identity, and the fact that “There is a definite moral justification to allow this information to be made public,” the site owner and administrator have informed me that the the OP may post the relevant details on the public board.
Thank you for all the responses. It is difficult to know what to do given the situation.
To clarify, this person is not currently in Taiwan - he informed me that he was in a different country. I have no reason to believe he is a member on this forum. I will be sending an email to the NIA and CLA, notifying of the fact that this person is looking for employment, possibly in Taiwan. If anyone knows of the appropriate department/person to email please let me know.
Due to the public nature of this person’s past (there are tens of reports and articles about him online), I feel it is not wrong to link to public information about him in order to let people know who I am talking about. This is so school employers, if they are approached, are aware of this person’s past with children.
To answer the question about how I found this out - This person presented as a man with an almost identical name to the person linked to. A search of this person’s name revealed that his date of birth, place of birth and photo provided in his CV matched the identity. I’ve since spent ample time reading, searching and confirming that this is the person.
A Girl called John Mark ? Did I miss something here? Some crazy story and I think it is right to warn of the unstable mental condition shown, irrespective of crimes.
This person was born male, but he later lived as a transgender woman. That is why the wiki is a bit mixed up when it comes to referencing his/her gender. Anyway, seems he is back to being a ‘man’ again.
