# Shooting at a Taiwanese church group in Orange County, California, USA (Hate Crime) **URL:** \ **Category:** Greater Forumosa\ **Tags:** crime\ **Created:** [May 16, 2022, 1:47am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/shooting-at-a-taiwanese-church-group-in-orange-county-california-usa-hate-crime/219805 "2022-05-16T01:47:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![PeiHua-Connie](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/a4c791/32.png) [@PeiHua-Connie](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/PeiHua-Connie)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 1:47am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/shooting-at-a-taiwanese-church-group-in-orange-county-california-usa-hate-crime/219805/1 "2022-05-16T01:47:52Z")
Very sad news, more so for the Taiwanese people there in USA [California church shooting: 1 dead, 5 injured in Orange County ([foxla.com](http://foxla.com)) LAGUNA CHURCH SHOOTING: Orange County Sheriff says roughly 40 people were inside church during shooting. Large portion of attendees were Taiwanese. > **[California church shooting: Alleged gunman 'politically motivated' by hatred...](https://www.foxla.com/news/california-church-shooting-motive-taiwanese-people)** > > Officials said they believe the shooting inside Geneva Presbyterian Church in Laguna Woods was a "politically motivated hate incident” driven by the suspected gunman David Chou’s alleged hatred for Taiwanese people. > **[One person killed, five injured after man opens fire at Taiwanese church...](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-16/one-person-dead-after-shooting-at-presbyterian-church-california/101071164)** > > A man in his 60s is in police custody after a deadly shooting at a Presbyterian church in California, a day after 10 people were killed in a shooting in Buffalo, New York. ---
**Author:** ![Mick](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mick/32/66311_2.png) [@Mick](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Mick)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 1:54am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/shooting-at-a-taiwanese-church-group-in-orange-county-california-usa-hate-crime/219805/2 "2022-05-16T01:54:42Z")
> **[California churchgoers detained gunman in deadly attack](https://apnews.com/article/religion-shootings-california-914ec2bfae85cbba41f857838824a567)** > > A man opened fire during a lunch reception at a Southern California church on Sunday before he was stopped in what a sheriff’s official called an act of “exceptional heroism and bravery.” > The suspect in the shooting, an Asian man in his 60s, was in custody and deputies recovered two handguns at the scene, Undersheriff Jeff Hallock said. A motive for the shooting wasn’t immediately known but investigators don’t believe the gunman lives in the community, he said. ---
**Author:** ![YouMustWhipIt](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/youmustwhipit/32/178012_2.png) [@YouMustWhipIt](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/YouMustWhipIt)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 2:26am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/shooting-at-a-taiwanese-church-group-in-orange-county-california-usa-hate-crime/219805/3 "2022-05-16T02:26:37Z")
In a sane world this would spur some kind of action towards gun control and more of our elected leaders would speak out against this kind of violence. It’s heartbreaking to see this every day. One American teacher I know said out of a class of 20 kids, 7 of them have had a friend or relative killed by guns. This violence is a daily thing now. ---
**Author:** ![Taiwan\_Luthiers](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@Taiwan\_Luthiers](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Taiwan_Luthiers)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 2:27am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/shooting-at-a-taiwanese-church-group-in-orange-county-california-usa-hate-crime/219805/4 "2022-05-16T02:27:10Z")
California has really strict gun laws though… just an anecdote… When I landed in Los Angeles back in 2014 I went to a church with a friend of the house I was staying at (only for a week), one of the church goer was showing a Walther PPK with their friend. I told him to leave it in his car. Pretty sure that’s not exactly legal in CA… ---
**Author:** ![Gain](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/b487fb/32.png) [@Gain](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Gain)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 4:47am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/shooting-at-a-taiwanese-church-group-in-orange-county-california-usa-hate-crime/219805/5 "2022-05-16T04:47:08Z")
> [@Mick](#): > > The suspect in the shooting, an Asian man in his 60s, was in custody and deputies recovered two handguns at the scene Maybe it was a PRC nationalist targeting Taiwanese people. Scary. ---
**Author:** ![Icon](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/icon/32/189245_2.png) [@Icon](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Icon)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 5:19am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/shooting-at-a-taiwanese-church-group-in-orange-county-california-usa-hate-crime/219805/6 "2022-05-16T05:19:11Z")
Mostly elderly Taiwanese. And they fought back. Amahs and agongs are really something to behold. Of course it was several guns not a semiautomatic but still, kudos. “That group of churchgoers displayed what we believe is exceptional heroism and bravery,” Undersheriff Jeff Hallock said ---
**Author:** ![papertowel](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/papertowel/32/179757_2.png) [@papertowel](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/papertowel)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 5:27am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/shooting-at-a-taiwanese-church-group-in-orange-county-california-usa-hate-crime/219805/7 "2022-05-16T05:27:17Z")
> [@YouMustWhipIt](#): > > In a sane world this would spur some kind of action towards gun control Too many idiots in America that want to hold the country back because they still think it’s the 1800’s and guns are a crucial part of safety 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Poundsand](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@Poundsand](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Poundsand)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 5:43am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/shooting-at-a-taiwanese-church-group-in-orange-county-california-usa-hate-crime/219805/8 "2022-05-16T05:43:49Z")
> [@Taiwan\_Luthiers](#): > > California has really strict gun laws though… Sort of, but not really. For a legal purchaser, you gotta wait 10 days, there’s a more limited selection in terms of specific weapons _from dealers_, capacity limits, and silly feature lists, but you can get pretty much whatever class of non NFA weapon you want. ---
**Author:** ![hansioux](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/hansioux/32/253648_2.png) [@hansioux](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/hansioux)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 5:51am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/shooting-at-a-taiwanese-church-group-in-orange-county-california-usa-hate-crime/219805/9 "2022-05-16T05:51:07Z")
A 60 year-old Taiwanese man from Las Vegas shooting a bunch of old people in a church in Laguna Woods? That’s just such an odd event… Used to goto Laguna Beach all the time… ---
**Author:** ![tango42](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/82dd89/32.png) [@tango42](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tango42)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 5:54am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/shooting-at-a-taiwanese-church-group-in-orange-county-california-usa-hate-crime/219805/10 "2022-05-16T05:54:30Z")
> **[Geneva Presbyterian Church / Orange County, CA](https://www.genevapres.org/)** > > Geneva Presbyterian Church is a loving community who embraces and celebrates all people! Three worship styles. Preschool & elementary education. ---
**Author:** ![tempogain](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tempogain/32/264650_2.png) [@tempogain](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tempogain)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 10:03am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/shooting-at-a-taiwanese-church-group-in-orange-county-california-usa-hate-crime/219805/11 "2022-05-16T10:03:04Z")
3 posts were merged into an existing topic: [From shooting](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/from-shooting/219796/16) ---
**Author:** ![hansioux](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/hansioux/32/253648_2.png) [@hansioux](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/hansioux)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 6:00am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/shooting-at-a-taiwanese-church-group-in-orange-county-california-usa-hate-crime/219805/12 "2022-05-16T06:00:11Z")
> [@Gain](#): > > Where does it say the assailant is Taiwanese? Maybe he’s Chinese and was targeting Taiwanese people. At 60 years old, some of those early immigrants would have very conflicted self-identities. All the American sources I read just says suspect is Asian American, but the Taiwanese news all flat out says he is also Taiwanese American. ---
**Author:** ![Gain](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/b487fb/32.png) [@Gain](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Gain)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 6:02am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/shooting-at-a-taiwanese-church-group-in-orange-county-california-usa-hate-crime/219805/13 "2022-05-16T06:02:16Z")
> [@hansioux](#): > > the Taiwanese news all flat out says he is also Taiwanese American. Well I would not trust Taiwanese news. ---
**Author:** ![PeiHua-Connie](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/a4c791/32.png) [@PeiHua-Connie](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/PeiHua-Connie)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 6:03am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/shooting-at-a-taiwanese-church-group-in-orange-county-california-usa-hate-crime/219805/14 "2022-05-16T06:03:46Z")
> [@Gain](#): > > > [@hansioux](#): > > > > A 60 year-old Taiwanese man from Las Vegas shooting a bunch of old people in a church in Laguna Woods? That’s just such an odd event… Used to goto Laguna Beach all the time… > > Where does it say the assailant is Taiwanese? Maybe he’s Chinese and was targeting Taiwanese people. [南加州教會槍擊案 死者英勇撲向兇嫌遭射殺！6死傷和槍手皆台灣人 ｜ 蘋果新聞網 ｜ 蘋果日報 (appledaily.com)](https://tw.appledaily.com/international/20220516/4QM3SNKF4FEU7HQAXIRQDCZK6A/) ---
**Author:** ![olm](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/olm/32/91247_2.png) [@olm](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/olm)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 6:07am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/shooting-at-a-taiwanese-church-group-in-orange-county-california-usa-hate-crime/219805/16 "2022-05-16T06:07:47Z")
Last rumor I heard is that it was a non-asian shooter. Gotta wait for reliable info I guess ---
**Author:** ![hansioux](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/hansioux/32/253648_2.png) [@hansioux](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/hansioux)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 6:19am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/shooting-at-a-taiwanese-church-group-in-orange-county-california-usa-hate-crime/219805/18 "2022-05-16T06:19:56Z")
> [@olm](#): > > Last rumor I heard is that it was a non-asian shooter. Gotta wait for reliable info I guess [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/2T0Ts2m1JEs/maxresdefault.jpg "Churchgoers hog-tied mass shooter in Southern California attack | NewsNation Prime") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T0Ts2m1JEs) The police said it’s an Asian American, so I doubt that could change. ---
**Author:** ![tango42](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/82dd89/32.png) [@tango42](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tango42)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 6:29am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/shooting-at-a-taiwanese-church-group-in-orange-county-california-usa-hate-crime/219805/19 "2022-05-16T06:29:06Z")
> [@Gain](#): > > the sermons and shit are all done in Taiwanese. Not Mandarin? I’m trying to catch up on story. Possibly probably some local connection with church or someone in church. ---
**Author:** ![Gain](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/b487fb/32.png) [@Gain](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Gain)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 6:38am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/shooting-at-a-taiwanese-church-group-in-orange-county-california-usa-hate-crime/219805/20 "2022-05-16T06:38:47Z")
I read it on facebook that the sermons there are all done in Taiwanese, not Mandarin. > **[Log in to Facebook](https://www.facebook.com/kerekerer/posts/7291320420942792)** > > Log in to Facebook to start sharing and connecting with your friends, family and people you know. ---
**Author:** ![PeiHua-Connie](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/a4c791/32.png) [@PeiHua-Connie](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/PeiHua-Connie)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 8:09am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/shooting-at-a-taiwanese-church-group-in-orange-county-california-usa-hate-crime/219805/21 "2022-05-16T08:09:35Z")
> [@Gain](#): > > I read it on facebook that the sermons there are all done in Taiwanese, not Mandarin. > > [https://www.facebook.com/kerekerer/posts/7291320420942792](https://www.facebook.com/kerekerer/posts/7291320420942792) other example of Taiwanese language services 台語主日禮拜: 星期日 [https://efcmel.org/](https://efcmel.org/) ---
**Author:** ![SuiGeneris](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/suigeneris/32/246773_2.png) [@SuiGeneris](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/SuiGeneris)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 9:47am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/shooting-at-a-taiwanese-church-group-in-orange-county-california-usa-hate-crime/219805/22 "2022-05-16T09:47:37Z")
Im betting it was a disgruntled relative of the victim(s), possibly a very unhappy son? Money and sour grapes with decades of resentment built up probably involved. [Next page](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/shooting-at-a-taiwanese-church-group-in-orange-county-california-usa-hate-crime/219805.md?page=2)