# Shooting at a Taiwanese church group in Orange County, California, USA (Hate Crime) **URL:** \ **Category:** Greater Forumosa\ **Tags:** crime\ **Created:** [May 16, 2022, 1:47am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/shooting-at-a-taiwanese-church-group-in-orange-county-california-usa-hate-crime/219805 "2022-05-16T01:47:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![tempogain](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tempogain/32/264650_2.png) [@tempogain](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tempogain)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 10:03am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/shooting-at-a-taiwanese-church-group-in-orange-county-california-usa-hate-crime/219805/23 "2022-05-16T10:03:59Z")
What the hell is going on this week. ---
**Author:** ![sxguier](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/sxguier/32/173852_2.png) [@sxguier](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/sxguier)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 10:33am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/shooting-at-a-taiwanese-church-group-in-orange-county-california-usa-hate-crime/219805/24 "2022-05-16T10:33:23Z")
It’s SAD how all the news channels from 51 to 55 are all Ukraine and not report about the shooting. Actually there’s report…on the texts below. I’ve been zapping since noon and no news coverage or report about the shooting ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_PBH](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mr_pbh/32/230938_2.png) [@Mr\_PBH](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Mr_PBH)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 10:37am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/shooting-at-a-taiwanese-church-group-in-orange-county-california-usa-hate-crime/219805/25 "2022-05-16T10:37:22Z")
> [@tempogain](#): > > What the hell is going on this week. Big Bloody Eclipse. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_PBH](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mr_pbh/32/230938_2.png) [@Mr\_PBH](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Mr_PBH)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 10:38am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/shooting-at-a-taiwanese-church-group-in-orange-county-california-usa-hate-crime/219805/26 "2022-05-16T10:38:29Z")
> [@sxguier](#): > > I’ve been zapping since noon Uhm, what? Is this “turning the channel?” :grandpa: ---
**Author:** ![sxguier](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/sxguier/32/173852_2.png) [@sxguier](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/sxguier)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 10:45am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/shooting-at-a-taiwanese-church-group-in-orange-county-california-usa-hate-crime/219805/27 "2022-05-16T10:45:05Z")
Yeap ![image](https://forumosauploads-12829.kxcdn.com/original/3X/5/1/5101fb31e1ab185a3d4f8ce4da7920d87547e503.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_PBH](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mr_pbh/32/230938_2.png) [@Mr\_PBH](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Mr_PBH)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 10:46am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/shooting-at-a-taiwanese-church-group-in-orange-county-california-usa-hate-crime/219805/28 "2022-05-16T10:46:38Z")
Reminds me of my favorite punk band: SHORT ATTENTION SP— ---
**Author:** ![Gain](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/b487fb/32.png) [@Gain](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Gain)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 10:52am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/shooting-at-a-taiwanese-church-group-in-orange-county-california-usa-hate-crime/219805/29 "2022-05-16T10:52:18Z")
> [@tempogain](#): > > What the hell is going on in this country. FTFY ---
**Author:** ![PeiHua-Connie](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/a4c791/32.png) [@PeiHua-Connie](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/PeiHua-Connie)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 10:56am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/shooting-at-a-taiwanese-church-group-in-orange-county-california-usa-hate-crime/219805/30 "2022-05-16T10:56:34Z")
More updated info ( Dead man in Southern California church shooting heroically jumps on suspect ) > **[南加州教會槍擊案　死者英勇撲向兇嫌遭射殺！6死傷和槍手皆台灣人 ｜ 蘋果新聞網 ｜ 蘋果日報](https://tw.appledaily.com/international/20220516/4QM3SNKF4FEU7HQAXIRQDCZK6A/)** > > 美國周末發生第二起大規模槍擊案！南加州橘郡警方周日（5/15）表示，拉古納伍茲（Laguna Woods）一間教堂驚傳槍響，造成1人死亡、5人受傷；有報導指，死傷者皆為台灣人。行兇者先將大門用鐵錬鎖上，再持兩把手槍開槍，犯行後當場被教會人士制伏，已被警方逮捕。根據橘郡警方表示... ENG with some twitter: [Taiwanese church in California hit by fatal shooting | Taiwan News | 2022-05-16 11:25:00](https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4539651) ---
**Author:** ![tempogain](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tempogain/32/264650_2.png) [@tempogain](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tempogain)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 10:57am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/shooting-at-a-taiwanese-church-group-in-orange-county-california-usa-hate-crime/219805/31 "2022-05-16T10:57:52Z")
I expect a couple a week, but not this ---
**Author:** ![Explant](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/explant/32/130551_2.png) [@Explant](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Explant)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 2:57pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/shooting-at-a-taiwanese-church-group-in-orange-county-california-usa-hate-crime/219805/32 "2022-05-16T14:57:51Z")
Take home point, not just US nationals suffer from mental illness. People in the US want to self protect against a tyrannical government should one exist. Thus if gun control is to be a fair and useful mechanism to weed out psychotic manics, transparency, logic based government must first persist. Probably for at least a generation. Otherwise, crazy meets crazy. Its so sad to see illogical people run their days with emotion. RIP. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_PBH](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mr_pbh/32/230938_2.png) [@Mr\_PBH](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Mr_PBH)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 9:50pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/shooting-at-a-taiwanese-church-group-in-orange-county-california-usa-hate-crime/219805/33 "2022-05-16T21:50:00Z")
Holy crap. That’s fucking insane. [https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-05-16/laguna-woods-gunman-worked-methodically-but-motive-a-mystery?utm\_source=facebook&utm\_medium=news\_tab](https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-05-16/laguna-woods-gunman-worked-methodically-but-motive-a-mystery?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=news_tab) > Among the evidence recovered, Barnes said, were notes written in Chinese that Chou left in his car showing he did not believe Taiwan should be an independent state from China ---
**Author:** ![afterspivak](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@afterspivak](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/afterspivak)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2022, 12:09am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/shooting-at-a-taiwanese-church-group-in-orange-county-california-usa-hate-crime/219805/35 "2022-05-17T00:09:52Z")
> [@Mr\_PBH](#): > > Holy crap. That’s fucking insane. It’s not insane if you know about the history of Chinese Nationalists in California targeting actual and perceived supporters of Taiwan independence. It’s also the subject of Shawna Yang Ryan’s Green Island, especially in the section of that novel set in Berkeley. Guy ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_PBH](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mr_pbh/32/230938_2.png) [@Mr\_PBH](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Mr_PBH)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2022, 12:15am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/shooting-at-a-taiwanese-church-group-in-orange-county-california-usa-hate-crime/219805/36 "2022-05-17T00:15:11Z")
No, sorry. Still insanity. ---
**Author:** ![afterspivak](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@afterspivak](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/afterspivak)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2022, 12:19am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/shooting-at-a-taiwanese-church-group-in-orange-county-california-usa-hate-crime/219805/37 "2022-05-17T00:19:24Z")
The history I am talking about dates back to the 1970s in which Chinese Nationalist agents and local goon in the US targeted Taidu types residing in the US. What this guy did in Orange County has a history that will be known to nearly everyone in that Taiwanese Presbyterian Church, itself a key site for bringing together supporters of Taiwan independence. For some of this backstory, check out Green Island (the novel) if you’re interested. Guy ---
**Author:** ![hansioux](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/hansioux/32/253648_2.png) [@hansioux](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/hansioux)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2022, 12:41am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/shooting-at-a-taiwanese-church-group-in-orange-county-california-usa-hate-crime/219805/38 "2022-05-17T00:41:06Z")
Yet Another Late-immigrant Killing Taiwanese ---
**Author:** ![the\_bear](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/the_bear/32/192391_2.png) [@the\_bear](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/the_bear)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2022, 12:47am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/shooting-at-a-taiwanese-church-group-in-orange-county-california-usa-hate-crime/219805/39 "2022-05-17T00:47:49Z")
Yeah major movement of Taiwanese into Southern California after the meilidao incident in 1979. It was either get out or take a long long holiday on Green Island. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_PBH](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mr_pbh/32/230938_2.png) [@Mr\_PBH](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Mr_PBH)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2022, 12:49am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/shooting-at-a-taiwanese-church-group-in-orange-county-california-usa-hate-crime/219805/40 "2022-05-17T00:49:24Z")
> [@the\_bear](#): > > meilidao incident in 1979. The incident occurred when _[Formosa Magazine](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formosa_Magazine)_ , headed by released political prisoner [Shih Ming-teh](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shih_Ming-teh)and veteran opposition [legislator](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legislative_Yuan) [Huang Hsin-chieh](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huang_Hsin-chieh), and other opposition politicians held a demonstration commemorating [Human Rights Day](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Rights_Day)to promote and demand [democracy](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy) in Taiwan.[[3]](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaohsiung_Incident#cite_note-DPP_book-3) At that time, the [Republic of China](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan) was a [one-party state](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-party_state) and the government used this protest as an excuse to arrest the main leaders of the political opposition. The Kaohsiung Incident is widely regarded as a seminal event in the [post-war history of Taiwan](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Taiwan_since_1945) and the watershed of the Taiwan democratization movements.[[4]](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaohsiung_Incident#cite_note-Tang-4) The event had the effect of galvanizing the Taiwanese community into political actions and is regarded as one of the events that eventually led to democracy in Taiwan. :bowing: ---
**Author:** ![OysterOmelet](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/oysteromelet/32/219695_2.png) [@OysterOmelet](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/OysterOmelet)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2022, 12:51am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/shooting-at-a-taiwanese-church-group-in-orange-county-california-usa-hate-crime/219805/41 "2022-05-17T00:51:07Z")
WTF shooter was washienlang. ---
**Author:** ![tempogain](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tempogain/32/264650_2.png) [@tempogain](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tempogain)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2022, 2:12am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/shooting-at-a-taiwanese-church-group-in-orange-county-california-usa-hate-crime/219805/42 "2022-05-17T02:12:20Z")
7 posts were merged into an existing topic: [From shooting](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/from-shooting/219796/26) ---
**Author:** ![amitkattal](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/amitkattal/32/179602_2.png) [@amitkattal](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/amitkattal)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2022, 1:07am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/shooting-at-a-taiwanese-church-group-in-orange-county-california-usa-hate-crime/219805/48 "2022-05-17T01:07:57Z")
> **[Laguna Woods shooting was a hate crime targeting Taiwanese, sheriff alleges](https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-05-16/laguna-woods-gunman-worked-methodically-but-motive-a-mystery)** > > 'It is believed the suspect involved was upset about political tensions between China and Taiwan,' Orange County Sheriff Don Barnes said. Supposidely he lived in Taiwan for a while [Previous page](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/shooting-at-a-taiwanese-church-group-in-orange-county-california-usa-hate-crime/219805.md?page=1) [Next page](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/shooting-at-a-taiwanese-church-group-in-orange-county-california-usa-hate-crime/219805.md?page=3)