even the ones in charge of enforcing the law drive like it was original game GTA. We don’t need new laws for punishments, we just need an actual justice system and enforcement. Laws are already plenty plentiful without looking like psuedo Chinese Singaporeans.
Yes, because Nordic countries have awesome social systems and low crimes because there’s no diversity, sounds like what you’re saying.
So society where everyone looks exactly alike is more stable?
No…. But I wouldn’t complain if they did it to pedos and rapists 
While diversity itself isn’t the issue, mass, poorly managed immigration absolutely has caused serious problems in many countries.
I don’t think that’s the case in my home country the US. Large-scale immigration to the US during my lifetime has coincided with our becoming far bigger, richer, and more powerful than ever.
And my ancestors came to the United States from a poor country during another era of ‘uncontrolled’ immigration. We’ve paid taxes, fought in wars, cured sick people, taught children, and operated successful businesses despite having been maligned and discriminated against when we first came.
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Supposedly the USA is a democracy and has the death penalty
Given the absolute rampant cell-phone stealing by Yoofs on stolen scooters in London, there is a problem is determining punishement. They are too young to be put in an adult jail, have no money of their own to pay fines with, and generally after being caught just swear at the police who know its a last cause prosecuting them.
It could be ramped up, 1st offence, locked up for 6 weeks, on a no-work then no nintendo policy. 2nd offence canning, 3rd offence start removing fingers, 4th offence off with their hand…
I am sure the leader of the free world would agree with me on this one.
USA is a flawed democracy now, and after this year is likely an oligarchy like the Philippines.
I’m not sure what is meant by “managed immigration” because it seems like no amount of managing is ever deemed enough. You cannot stop natural migration anymore than you can stop a flock of birds from flying wherever they need to, if the migratory pressure exists.
Immigration is a net positive except for tribal people. Tribal people hate immigration. Tribalism needs to die.
While I abhor the death penalty, its existence in a given country is irrelevant to whether that country is a democracy. A country is a democracy if it is ruled by and for the people. We could have stoning as a penalty and still be a democracy.
The death penalty raises more questions about whether the US is a country ruled by law.
Singapore is a “democracy” and it has death penalty for all kinds of non murder offenses.
I am against violent punishment. Caning someone is torture. Hefty fines work just fine. If these douches have no money, community service is a better option. Let them help where help is needed, humble them in other ways. Have them tribute something positive to society.
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A good smacking is exactly what’s needed, that’s why kids behaved when teachers had rulers and parents had belts, instead of today’s pathetic, whiny brats who get “time-outs” and grow up to be cocky gangsters in BMWs, laughing at fines like they’re minor inconveniences.
Caning is NOT torture. It’s justice. A real, effective punishment that actually deters crime, because unlike a slap on the wrist, those scars stay as permanent reminders to behave.
Community service? More like “vacation.”
More people should get the memo.
That’s exactly the system that raised the millennial, and by proxy enabled the next gen. Which is i assume what this post has exception with? People ought to stop thinking so short term and understand biology and psychology works long term.
Do that now in Taiwan and someone will blast the parent on social media for so much as a light smack they caught on camera. You’ll be famous.
If you even tell the kids to stop bad behavior at a cram school the parents will be up there complaining to management.
Many moons ago I did some sub work for a buxiban (not long luckily) and after that, I quickly pivoted to adult teaching for so much less stress. Then left the industry completely. Those cram schools, the kids generally don’t want to be there, but parents insist
Some schools, mine included, when I first moved here, sold the no beating policy. We literally made bank by promising parents we won’t physically assault their kids. Even those that asked us to, we said flat no. Never. We will use language to teach, not pain to discipline. We were a language school, after all…should be the skill set, no? Everything after that was just normal teaching. If anything, it filtered out the trailer trash parents (especially the rich ones). Sadly, many an abused child here. It’s good to have a free summer program and sometimes a getaway the students can bring their friends and give them a fresh breathe of air. If not for profit, if jot for reputation, if not for results, at least for community.
Like you, niurou, I had to quit too. The dark shit one sees with parents is just too depressing. It’s like social work with GEPT tests. Poor kids 
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It’s interesting, one of the most well-behaved students I ever had was a boy who got beaten with a coat hanger by his mom in the school parking lot. That’s why he was so well-behaved.
With my own daughter, I’ve never needed to, and would never want to, use physical punishment. I’m strict in other ways: I take away toys, remove privileges, and reward good behavior instead. That’s always been enough and she has gotten top student of the class awards 2 semesters in a row in elementary.
But I do wonder if it’s different with boys. It seems like, for some of them, stricter discipline, sometimes even physical… might be the only thing that really gets through.
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Depends on the definition of torture you prefer. To me it is. I think I am following Amnesty International here.
To me, caning feels like you have given up on these people already. No need to bother with trying other ways to stop them from breaking the law. I can’t see how this is not leading to even more resentment of authority and more wrongdoing in the future.
At least when it comes to minor offenses like spraypainting, I would favor penalties that force the offenders to undo what they did. Have them paint over grafitti walls or scrub them walls clean. That will teach them a lesson. Inflicting pain on their asses will do fck all.
Without being insulting about the reasons why physical abuse to brain wash a child into submission is crazy. I will just say it is the unintelligent, often lazy, way of doing things as people think it’s a short cut to obedience. Nothing is further from the truth. Outside of proper behavioral problems related to psychological abnorms (not tired parents opinions about activity being a problem*) it is actually easier, long term, to not use physical abuse and use logic and teaching about why A, B or C is either right or wrong. This also assumes the parent is actually ethical and mature enough to both admit and teach such concepts. that’s a different issue. Either way, it’s actually more efficient, thus lazy parents should really think about it, to teach kids from birth about critical thinking and logic. It makes the later years WAAAAAAY easier as they already have a critical thinking base and a moral compass to navigate theough reality. The screaming shit head parents that just yell at kids at a McDonald’s and beat their kids in public are simply just making their own life harder due to ineffective/non efficient parenting. Counter productive, even though it may well be a release from their own abusive experiences.
All the information is available for free now, even if some parents aren’t willing to admit it. This is where schools, and most importantly teachers, can play a crucial role in giving young humans a guide map to critical thinking. Let them discover their parents retardation on their own. But give them hope for something better via making them intelligent rather than simply educated.
Lots of hope for this, especially in a society with so many broken families yet so much respect for teachers and the system. It’s one of the easiest countries for any John Doe to make a difference in.
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