im a taiwanese girl. i’ve never paid when i was dating with guys b4, either Taiwanese or foreigner guys. whatever we went on dinners, movies or travellings…however, i did pay something small spontaneously sometimes and i noticed guys preferred this way.
but recently, i m dating the guy who would pay most bills when we hang out but he would also ask me to pay- the bills have been always small tho, like cab, movies, street food or so. i dunt know why, just dunt feel comfortable to be asked to do so, especially by the guy who i m dating…im confused. should girls pay?
Yeah, I’m the same way. I don’t mind paying, but I always liked it if the girl paid for something along the way. It didn’t have to be much, it was just the thought.
I’ve always felt that whoever does the asking does the paying. You’ve taken into account your guy’s income and circumstances, right? He’s not unemployed/broke or saving up for his mother’s heart transplant?
PS A gentle suggestion: proper capitalization would make your posts easier on the eyes.
Stop being a girl before you become a woman. You can’t expect to be treated as an equal, if you aren’t his equal.
I generally have always been out with university students and later, teachers, so I always had more money than them. I don’t mind paying for what I want to do with who I want to do it with (dinner …) without expecting them to pay. I’m not really interested in guys who feel emasculated by this, or conversely by cheap guys who never put their hands in their pocket. I really don’t care about money.
Trust me, you aren’t such hot shit you can’t pay for your own cab. Unless you’ve turned pro.
Some men don’t like gold diggers, and don’t like being used for their money. Especially if they’ve had some bad experiences with this.
When I was dating, I’d expect to pay for everything the first couple of times, but while I might be comfortable paying for most of the things most of the time, if I was paying for every little thing every single time, I’d walk. Especially if I hadn’t got laid yet and was feeling I was getting strung along.
I’ve met plenty of women who insisted on paying their fair share because they didn’t want to feel “indebted” to me in some way. I’ve also met women who paid for most of the stuff most of the time because they were on a higher income.
When I am out with my lady I normally pay for most things, but it gets to the point where she has to insist to pay for something because she does not like me to pay for everything.
I think I would always insist on paying when I am out with my girlfriend, but she always ends up paying for some stuff too. I think this way is better, I don’t think he should ask.
Yes well many Taiwan girls keep asking their men to take them here and their, ask go that this or that clothes store, ask to dine at Ruths Chris or the Hyatt, ask to be driven home, ask for cosmetics to take away their skin blemishes.
Girls Girls Girls, just keep on asking and asking and asking. :no-no:
So girl pay up. It is not any companians responsibility to keep paying for you for every time you want to go out.
Equal rights = equal responsibilities. It’s as simple as that. This is the 21st century - if you agree that men and women are operating on an equal playing ground, then of course it’s only logical that women should pay at least 50% of the time, same as men.
Of course, there are other considerations. How much you can afford to pay vs. how much the other can afford to pay. Whenever in the past I’ve dated a woman who made considerably less salary than I did, I always paid for everything (tried to; sometimes she insisted on buying me stuff, despite my protests). If we both make around an equal income (for example, if I’m dating a co-worker at my buxiban), then it should be split equally - either go dutch or ‘you pay this time, I’ll pay next time’ arrangement. If she makes a lot more than me - huh; well I’ve never encountered that here in Taiwan. I honestly don’t know what I’d expect her to do in that situation.
Exactly… My woman wanted to take me to Korea for a 2 week vacation. She paid for everything, airfares, hotels, high speed rail travel, food, entrance fees to museums and war memorials, trips to North Korea… even bought me some new socks and undies.
I paid the bus and HSR fee from Toayuan airport back to Taipei city though after we got back.
That made it about a fair split I reckon for asking me to take time off work and go to Korea with her.
I have always paid , cept for sometimes when the little lady paid as a gesture (and it was appreciated). I could be a man-whore though and just accept her paying !! Anytime baby, flash that credit card !!
The fact is that men must be wary of gold-diggers, particularly in certain societies where the average income is considerably lower than in the West. That may sound cynical, but it’s the facts of life. I once dated a woman here in Taiwan who kept talking about how she loved America and wanted to move there and get a green card and proposed marriage to me on the 2nd date. True story. Obviously, that’s an extreme case - she should have been a bit more subtle if she intended on entrapping me that way - but men are rightful to be wary of women that seem to be a bit too materialistic.
It’s really simple: just as men should treat women like actual human beings, not mere sex objects, so should women not treat men like walking ATM machines. Especially in Taiwan - don’t assume that just because he is a foreigner, he’s rich. 90% of us are merely lowly English teachers who do not earn that much more money than your average lower-middle-class worker.
I make girls pay an hourly rate for the privilege of my company + all expenses! :discodance: :discodance:
The Taiwanese girls I have dated have all insisted on paying from time to time despite my arguments. There really is no ‘should’ or ‘shouldn’t’, it depends on the people and circumstances. I like the idea of whoever asked out the other person pays the way, but this assumes both people have the disposable income to blow.
I always paid for everything, and now I’m married I pretty much still do. When I met my wife she earned more than me, and now she earns considerably less - its just the way I was raised, the man pays.
Those of you who have been out with me socially know I tend to pay regardless - alpha male and all that.
Satellite TV has caught on and now we fight over the bill, I let him pay sometimes because to be fair he’s not very pretty.
Yeah, I’m the same way. I don’t mind paying, but I always liked it if the girl paid for something along the way. It didn’t have to be much, it was just the thought.
I’ve always felt that whoever does the asking does the paying. You’ve taken into account your guy’s income and circumstances, right? He’s not unemployed/broke or saving up for his mother’s heart transplant?
PS A gentle suggestion: proper capitalization would make your posts easier on the eyes.[/quote]
[quote=“Edgar Allen”]I always paid for everything, and now I’m married I pretty much still do. When I met my wife she earned more than me, and now she earns considerably less - its just the way I was raised, the man pays.
Those of you who have been out with me socially know I tend to pay regardless - alpha male and all that.
Satellite TV has caught on and now we fight over the bill, I let him pay sometimes because to be fair he’s not very pretty.[/quote]
Ha… getting to pay before you means taking you to aq place where I have preaid the bills. You always in a rush to collect those little Fapiao’s to give back to your employer.
Anyways I’m at least as pretty as your are… your wife told me that when you weren’t listening lol
Hope the lad’s not playing up with Grandma today. Maybe it’s the weather.
This is the 21 century but take the age as a factor. Young women (under 20) don’t usually pay for anything, they don’t have career, are students, prefer to be the girl toy or something like that, but they eat in these food stands most of the time. So if the boyfriend doesn’t pay, he will be cross out from her list.
Women in their 20’s are the romantic sort, like the image of the white knight who comes and pays to have the pleasure of their company. They don’t want their girl friends and peers to laugh at her for paying for company.
The women in their 30’s are either feminist (I’ll pay half or everything) or the ones that don’t want to seem desperate (me, paying for a man to be my escort because I’m an old spinster?) and therefore won’t pay for much of the expenses.
Priceless
