So...Greta Thunberg is being manipulated?

The only one who should be “fair game” here is you for harboring some of the most ignorant and uninformed views of autism (in this case, specifically Asperger’s) I’ve heard in awhile.

The other thing you don’t get, presumably not having the advantages of being Autistic, is that we don’t. give. a. crap. about the kind of “abuse” she’s getting. I guarantee you she doesn’t care a bit about any aspersions you or anyone else are casting on her reputation, intellect, or anything else. Because we deal in facts, not idiotic interpersonal pissing contests like most neurotypicals. It’s about the work or whatever needs to happen because of facts, not agonizing over being called names by a bunch of people who can’t understand science.


Is autism the new ADHD? A cure looking for a disease?

Yes I can just feel all the apatheia.

You’re being overly harsh here. She is stupid, but she is stupid in largely the same way all children are stupid…she is inexperienced and undeveloped. I have no idea to what extent she has mental deficiencies, and even if she does it doesn’t detract from the substance of her arguments. The problem I have with this is that certain individuals are obviously using her to promote an agenda, and I feel bad that she is being so used. Why would I listen to a child on an issue of this importance? If the child is incredibly mature and makes a good argument, great! I listen to the reasonableness and logic of arguments, but certain people are using this poor girl for the emotional impact.

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Well, failing to inform oneself of a bare minimum of facts before spouting off as you have done is offensive.


So she’s being manipulated.

So she’s not being manipulated.

Make up your mind. Looks like you’re moving the goalposts IMO.

And you’re playing with a full deck? Sorry. If you have all the answers, then you’ll have my vote for Parliament.

I don’t have a problem if you disagree with her opinion. But that’s not what you’re doing. You’re mocking uncontrollable and irrelevant aspects of a person who, disagree or not, is particularly brave to go and speak out for what she believes in. I’m a coward compared to her, as all I’ve been able to do at this moment is sit behind the protection of the computer monitor. We, as a species, once thought Women, Black people, East Asians, Hispanics, First Nations, Gay People, South Asians and Jewish People were of inferior intelligence and were unable to think for themselves. We once thought that voting might be too hard for women and it was better to exclude them because they might be overwhelmed by the choice. It’s extremely bigoted to think so today. We thought it was OK to hold other humans as possessions, and some still think that way today. They don’t think of them as human, but as animals. In many ways, we are past that. Fair game doesn’t mean you should be mocking someone’s appearance, mental health and implying they’re not fully there in lieu of a good argument of what she’s saying. Fair game is giving her ideas that are brought to the table fair and open criticism. You’re not criticising her, you’re mocking her, you’re dismissing her as less than you because she has autism, despite proof that autism or alleged foetal alcohol syndrome is not necessarily a proverbial mental death sentence. If she is coherently expressing her freedom of speech in the form of an opinion, then she has more than enough facilities to do so. You have provided us with ZERO coherent arguments about her opinion, instead choosing to try to tell everyone she’s, as you say ‘not playing with a full deck of cards’. That’s not an argument. You don’t have an argument, because if you did, you would be talking about it, sourcing your talking points and offering evidence and proof. You’ve done none of that. What you are saying is bigotry, and I’m calling it out.

And, by the way, So-called ‘Winos’ have just as much a right to freedom of speech as anyone else, and are not incapable of expressing their opinions either.

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Yeah, she’s stupid not because she’s autistic. She’s just naive and young. A lot of young people are like her now.

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Minimal awareness of facts, you say?

Maybe you’re all quite correct and I’m the bigot. Maybe she’s so damn clever she concocted this whole scheme to get out of school.

Or maybe certain people should know better by now than to call someone ignorant simply for not agreeing with you.

By the way, everyone who doesn’t fit in fantasizes about having a superpower…

It gets worse:

Trying to mess with the lives of everyone in the civilized world is the one thing that makes her feel better about herself. Screw that.

When I call someone ignorant. I’m prepared to back it up. Some of you would be well advised to follow my example. Because unless you are prepared to give evidence that she’s a super genius, you are all projecting something awful.

But not to being listened to. Or respected. It’s not an opinion she’s expressing. It’s a program to meddle with everyone’s lives. Surely you can see the difference? She’s not out there discussing her favorite Pokemon. She wants to hike your energy bills.

Everything I’ve said is admitted by herself. Everything said in rebuttal to me has been evasive at best, and often emotionalistic and unwarranted abuse. And now, hiding behind “it’s just an opinion?” Shame. We all know full well it’s not just an opinion.

Free speech? Let her say what she wants, and let me say what I want, and let us all say what we can all plainly see. When we’re done, we can ignore her. That’s how this free speech thing is supposed to work. It cuts both ways.

By the way, why was this thread started in the first place?

More of ignorant me doing the research right-thinking others can’t be bothered to do:

She nearly starved herself to death when she was eleven. Not cool. Oh, and it can cause developmental damage.

Another superpower:

You’re bold bro, not many would dare take the time and energy to mock autistic children on the net with such vim and vigor like you do. Way to take a stand on the hard hitting issues.

Not everyone has the cajones to mock a disabled young girl under a fake name online, and to boot you even find a way to attempt to discredit objective sciences everyone else already knows is fact in the process.

A true hero, showing us the truth we can’t handle! What else you got for us, genius?

I didn’t start this, and we all know it.

I don’t even know what that means. All i know is that I have never ever in my life met anyone as skilled as you as mocking young girls with autism under fake names on the internet.

And to package that with a complete disregard for science at the same time despite no expertise, credentials, training…you must be beaming with pride at your accomplishments.

Lest I seem ungracious, let me make a point of thanking you for admitting the basic fact about her. Not everyone here is willing to do that much.

Now if you’ll only do the same for global warming, we’ll finally be on the same page.

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To be honest I didn’t even know who she was until I put on my hazmat suit and read thru this thread.

As far as global warming, no offense but I’ll listen to people that know what the **** they’re talking about on the issue. Scientists, for example.

You got no clue on the science bit but let me assure you…nobody mocks autistic children under fake names online like you, bruh. Nobody. You show em’ who’s boss, tough guy.

Human shields don’t even slow me down. Especially not the volunteers. Somebody started this thread for some reason, and then called me a bigot. So here I am. No apologies. But shame on those who won’t just let her be forgotten. Because if it weren’t for somebody starting this thread, I’d have let it lie long ago.

Can we all agree to ignore this Greta? I’m game. Now I’ve got an admission of the basic fact about her, and that’s good enough for me. The mods can lock the thread any time they choose.

She’s a twofer. People are defending mental illness and climate change at the same time. Genius. The scientists with their fancy research have been doing it wrong all this time.

Look, I admit not everyone in life can mock people with autism under fake names online and pretend science doesn’t exist at the same time. Its a rare, special talent.

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Some of the language I’ve seen on this thread indicates that people are emotionally invested. The phrase “sunk cost fallacy” comes to mind.

Is there another kind of cost with you?