Songs that should be on Bush's iPod

Typhoon day (days) and all, I got to thinking.

I chose a few that I know of from here: whitehouse.org/kids/ipod.asp

Killing and Arab (The Cure)
Cocaine (Eric Clapton)
I ain’t no fortunate son (CCR)
I drink alone (George Thorogood)
Everybody wants to rule the world (tears for fears)

If you could sneak some songs onto his iPod, which would you choose?

I hear he likes country music, so I’d recommend:
All my exes live in Texas (George Strait)
Are you drinkin’ with me Jesus (Mojo Nixon)
I Would Have Wrote You A Letter, But I Couldn’t Spell Yuck! (Sam the Sham and the Pharaohs)
Pardon Me, I’ve Got Someone To Kill (Johnny Paycheck)

But he probably has those
From me:
Rocking the free world (Neil Young)
Us and them (Pink Floyd)
Dirty BLVD. (Lou Reed)
Letter to the president (Tupac)
Brown eyed girl (Van Morrison) For Condi :slight_smile:
Democracy (Leonard Cohen)
Oh Lord don’t them drop that atomic bomb on me (Mingus)
Son of a Bush (Public Enemy)
To name a few

1 song and one song only:

B Movie by Gil Scot Heron

I’d definitely stick these on repeat: Monster by Steppenwolf, Deja Vu by John Fogerty, and The Bravery of Being Out of Range by Roger Waters.
I’d like him to listen to these, particularly before signing off on economic policies: Seek Up by Dave Matthews, and Gone by Jack Johnson.

While I’d like him to listen to War by Bob Marley, but I’m afraid that he already has and misinterpreted it.

anything by Cat Stevens…lol

wouldn’t that be ironic.

Political Science
Randy Newman

No one likes us
I don

Yawn…another anti-Bush tirade by a Canadian…When Condi wins in 2008, will you do hari-kari? :smiling_imp: I certainly would like to see less anti-American Canadians.

And we’d all like to see a less anti-American Bush.
Condi winning in 2008 will be a manifestation of Americans doing hari-kari… not because she’s a Republican (the differences between the two parties are miniscule), but because she’s neither all that bright nor all that good at listening to contrary positions. The half-life of empire is growing shorter all the time… I figure the US has maybe 40 years left on top. After that, who? Could be a lot worse than the US, but then, if it keeps moving in the same direction, the US will be a lot worse than it is too.

Have a read, does this really strike you as anti-American? [quote=“Steppenwolf’s Monster”]And though the past has it’s share of injustice
Kind was the spirit in many a way
But it’s protectors and friends have been sleeping
Now it’s a monster and will not obey

(Suicide)
The spirit was freedom and justice
And it’s keepers seem generous and kind
It’s leaders were supposed to serve the country
But now they won’t pay it no mind
‘Cause the people grew fat and got lazy
And now their vote is a meaningless joke
They babble about law and order
But it’s all just an echo of what they’ve been told
Yeah, there’s a monster on the loose
It’s got our heads into a noose
And it just sits there watchin’

Our cities have turned into jungles
And corruption is stranglin’ the land
The police force is watching the people
And the people just can’t understand
We don’t know how to mind our own business
'Cause the whole worlds got to be just like us
Now we are fighting a war over there
No matter who’s the winner
We can’t pay the cost
'Cause there’s a monster on the loose
It’s got our heads into a noose
And it just sits there watching

(America)
America where are you now?
Don’t you care about your sons and daughters?
Don’t you know we need you now
We can’t fight alone against the monster [/quote]Or don’t. Keep yawning, return to your ideological slumber… but friends are raising the alarm, trying, gently, to wake you so that things can be turned around.
The alternative is a very rude awakening.

Peace

James McMurtry’s Choctaw Bingo
Iggy Pop’s The Undefeated
Rammstein’s We’re all living in America

This is not anti-American at all. And for the record, neither am I.

Lighten up a tad and you may see the humour. :slight_smile:

At the same time, I think it is important to consider what the “leader of the free world” listens to, i.e. what songs get stuck in his head as he ponders whether to send another few thousand marines to Iraq, or what to do about Iran and North Korea, who to appoint to the UN and the Supreme Court, etc.

Thanks Toe Save, forgot about Gill Scott Heron

Whitey on the moon (Gill Scott Heron) :slight_smile:

From Dr. Condoleezza Rice’s official biography:

[quote]Dr. Condoleezza Rice became Secretary of State on January 26, 2005. Prior to this, she was the Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs, commonly referred to as the National Security Advisor, since January 2001.

In June 1999, she completed a 6-year tenure as Stanford University 's Provost, during which she was the institution’s chief budget and academic officer. As Provost she was responsible for a $1.5 billion annual budget and the academic program involving 1,400 faculty members and 14,000 students.

As professor of political science, Dr. Rice has been on the Stanford faculty since 1981 and has won two of the highest teaching honors – the 1984 Walter J. Gores Award for Excellence in Teaching and the 1993 School of Humanities and Sciences Dean’s Award for Distinguished Teaching.

Born November 14, 1954 in Birmingham, Alabama, she earned her bachelor’s degree in political science, cum laude and Phi Beta Kappa, from the University of Denver in 1974; her master’s from the University of Notre Dame in 1975; and her Ph.D. from the Graduate School of International Studies at the University of Denver in 1981. She is a Fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences and has been awarded honorary doctorates from Morehouse College in 1991, the University of Alabama in 1994, the University of Notre Dame in 1995, the National Defense University in 2002, the Mississippi College School of Law in 2003, the University of Louisville and Michigan State University in 2004. She resides in Washington, DC.[/quote]

state.gov/r/pa/ei/biog/41252.htm

galegroup.com/free_resources … rice_c.htm

I have the feeling she’s a little brighter than anyone posting here.

[quote=“Jaboney”]
Have a read, does this really strike you as anti-American? [/quote]

East German John Kay (Steppenwolf) who became a Canadian. :unamused:

Especially than folks who write sentences like this:

Happiness is a Warm Gun - The Beatles :astonished:

[quote=“Comrade Stalin”]I have the feeling she’s a little brighter than anyone posting here.[/quote]I heard through the grapevine that in real life you have a Ph.D in History. If so, you should well know that obtaining one, getting a teaching post–even at a distinguished university-- or even winning a teaching award, isn’t any indication of intelligence. If not, you should know it anyways. There are plenty of idiots haunting the halls of academia.

As for Steppenwolf…

[quote=“Jaboney”]Have a read, does this really strike you as anti-American?[quote=“Comrade Stalin”]East German John Kay (Steppenwolf) who became a Canadian. Oh brother![/quote][/quote] …I was discussing the message, not the messanger. Do you want to try again or do you have nothing better to argue than pedigree, intellectual or otherwise?

Especially than folks who write sentences like this:

[quote]Condi winning in 2008 will be a manifestation of Americans doing hari-kari… not because she’s a Republican (the differences between the two parties are miniscule), but because she’s neither not all that bright nor all that good at listening to contrary positions.[/quote][/quote]Wow, a double negative. That hurts. But if that’s the standard, how dumb is Bush?

Well…he went to Yale and Harvard and is now President of the United States…and just what is it you’re doing here in Taiwan? :laughing:

[quote=“Jaboney”]And we’d all like to see a less anti-American Bush.
Condi winning in 2008 will be a manifestation of Americans doing hari-kari… not because she’s a Republican (the differences between the two parties are miniscule), but because she’s neither all that bright nor all that good at listening to contrary positions.[/quote]Jaboney -
You need to find a new place for your talking points. Its really making you look bad.
Dr. Condoleezza Rice:

[quote]Dr. Condoleezza Rice became Secretary of State on January 26, 2005. Prior to this, she was the Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs, commonly referred to as the National Security Advisor, since January, 2001.

In June 1999, she completed a six year tenure as Stanford University’s Provost, during which she was the institution’s chief budget and academic officer. As Provost she was responsible for a $1.5 billion annual budget and the academic program involving 1,400 faculty members and 14,000 students.

As professor of political science, Dr. Rice has been on the Stanford faculty since 1981 and has won two of the highest teaching honors – the 1984 Walter J. Gores Award for Excellence in Teaching and the 1993 School of Humanities and Sciences Dean’s Award for Distinguished Teaching.

At Stanford, she has been a member of the Center for International Security and Arms Control, a Senior Fellow of the Institute for International Studies, and a Fellow (by courtesy) of the Hoover Institution. Her books include Germany Unified and Europe Transformed (1995) with Philip Zelikow, The Gorbachev Era (1986) with Alexander Dallin, and Uncertain Allegiance: The Soviet Union and the Czechoslovak Army (1984). She also has written numerous articles on Soviet and East European foreign and defense policy, and has addressed audiences in settings ranging from the U.S. Ambassador’s Residence in Moscow to the Commonwealth Club to the 1992 and 2000 Republican National Conventions.

From 1989 through March 1991, the period of German reunification and the final days of the Soviet Union, she served in the Bush Administration as Director, and then Senior Director, of Soviet and East European Affairs in the National Security Council, and a Special Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs. In 1986, while an international affairs fellow of the Council on Foreign Relations, she served as Special Assistant to the Director of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. In 1997, she served on the Federal Advisory Committee on Gender – Integrated Training in the Military.

She was a member of the boards of directors for the Chevron Corporation, the Charles Schwab Corporation, the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation, the University of Notre Dame, the International Advisory Council of J.P. Morgan and the San Francisco Symphony Board of Governors.
She was a Founding Board member of the Center for a New Generation, an educational support fund for schools in East Palo Alto and East Menlo Park, California and was Vice President of the Boys and Girls Club of the Peninsula . In addition, her past board service has encompassed such organizations as Transamerica Corporation, Hewlett Packard, the Carnegie Corporation, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, The Rand Corporation, the National Council for Soviet and East European Studies, the Mid-Peninsula Urban Coalition and KQED, public broadcasting for San Francisco.

Born November 14, 1954 in Birmingham, Alabama, she earned her bachelor’s degree in political science, cum laude and Phi Beta Kappa, from the University of Denver in 1974; her master’s from the University of Notre Dame in 1975; and her Ph.D. from the Graduate School of International Studies at the University of Denver in 1981. She is a Fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences and has been awarded honorary doctorates from Morehouse College in 1991, the University of Alabama in 1994, the University of Notre Dame in 1995, the National Defense University in 2002, the Mississippi College School of Law in 2003, the University of Louisville and Michigan State University in 2004. She resides in Washington, D.C.[/quote]
and you do what?

[quote=“Comrade Stalin”]Well…he went to Yale and Harvard and is now President of the United States…and just what is it you’re doing here in Taiwan? :laughing:[/quote]Ok, guess you didn’t get that part about attending university and intelligence, or you think that it’s just irrelevant, or untrue.

Bush was admitted to Yale in 1964 under an affirmative-action policy for children of alumni – a “legacy” system. How he got into Harvard, I don’t know… One of his professors at Harvard, Yoshi Tsurumi, had this to say of W: “I don’t remember all the students in detail unless I’m prompted by something,” Tsurumi said in a telephone interview Wednesday. “But I always remember two types of students. One is the very excellent student, the type as a professor you feel honored to be working with. Someone with strong social values, compassion and intellect - the very rare person you never forget. And then you remember students like George Bush, those who are totally the opposite.” His prof agrees and the point still stands, there are loads of idiots in university. You want me to dig up something nasty someone said about Condi? What’s the point?

Just what am I doing here in Taiwan? Well, it’s a typhoon day, so at the moment I’m editing a couple of Ph.D dissertations that people studying in Europe have sent me. Later tonight I’ll work on a thesis or two. Monday to Friday I’m teaching English and paying for the education I earned-- you see, I couldn’t cash in on mommy’s and daddy’s connections because farmers and factory workers tend not to have that kind of pull. Why did I come here? I could have gone elsewhere, because there were offers, but I have a girlfriend here who waited two years for me to come back and I figure that kind of love, devotion and trust trumps a corner office and prettier bling-bling. So, what am I doing? Moving up in the world in a respectable manner, not compromising myself, helping others and teaching, which I really love. How about you?

Oh yeah, Bush must be smart because he went to Yale, Condi must be smart 'cause she taught at an Ivy League school, John Kay (Steppenwolf) must be anti-American because of where he was born and chose to live: all still arguments based on pedigree. Well shit, I’ve got a couple of graduate degrees from an Ivy League school… does that mean I automatically get into the smart club, or is there a patrician lineage requirement as well? Maybe just draw a little blood and make sure it’s blue enough? Bullshit.

Last point, I also heard through the grapevine that you might be a good guy with whom to kick around a few ideas in a real dialogue. I’m still hoping that might be true.

TC, I’m soooo far from interested in what passes for political debate in media handouts and 10 sec sound bites. Talking points are all hot air. The question was, what would I slip into Bush’s iPod playlist. I think it’s a pretty interesting question… I’ve seen pretty interesting analyses done of presidential reading lists and what various people with access have given presidents to read. So, I offered up a my selections. Chewycorns thought that this thread was another anti-Bush tirade and asked if Canadians would do hari-kari… why would we? It ain’t our country. Elect who you will. It’ll hurt us in a big, big way when the US loses its position at the top–and it will, everyone does–so I’m REALLY hoping that you guys get it right, but it’s up to you. I suggest that electing Condi would be a bad idea because it’d mean going further done a path that’s taken the US from a position in which even French newspapers were running headlines proclaiming, “Today, We’re All Americans” to the nadir of international respect and trust. I have to think that’s heading in the wrong direction. And Condi’s played a large part in shaping the policies responsible, so her ability to do this job, despite an impressive resume, has to be questioned. Damn, change the constitution and get Arnold in there… he’d do a better job. He seems to listen to both sides and know enough to know that he doesn’t know it all (or possibly even much).

What am I doing here in Taiwan? Read above. How about you?
What am I doing here on Forumosa? Looking for ideas and dialogue. Got no interest in nasty debate and scoring points.

Jaboney -
Demeaning others does not raise yourself.
Have a good day, eh?