# 🥇 🇰🇷 South Korea | Why is South Korea better than Taiwan in the Summer Olympics? **URL:** \ **Category:** Sports\ **Tags:** olympics, korea\ **Created:** [August 1, 2024, 10:45am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/south-korea-why-is-south-korea-better-than-taiwan-in-the-summer-olympics/242765 "2024-08-01T10:45:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![CTaitung](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/ctaitung/32/100105_2.png) [@CTaitung](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/CTaitung)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2024, 8:52am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/south-korea-why-is-south-korea-better-than-taiwan-in-the-summer-olympics/242765/81 "2024-08-17T08:52:05Z")
Usually in PE departments of schools, as they have a budget for either clothing or whatnot. However, as @cjasonc says, the corruption ‘value’ is miniscule compared to construction or business/industry. ---
**Author:** ![Taiwan\_Luthiers](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@Taiwan\_Luthiers](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Taiwan_Luthiers)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2024, 8:54am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/south-korea-why-is-south-korea-better-than-taiwan-in-the-summer-olympics/242765/82 "2024-08-17T08:54:39Z")
Yea, I mean I heard of game rigging, and stuff, but there’s probably far more corruption in claw machine shops. ---
**Author:** ![cjasonc](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/b9e5f3/32.png) [@cjasonc](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/cjasonc)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2024, 9:01am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/south-korea-why-is-south-korea-better-than-taiwan-in-the-summer-olympics/242765/83 "2024-08-17T09:01:30Z")
In Taiwan, government subsidies don’t happen unless there is a way for folks up top to skim money. In sports, unless gambiling, there isn’t many ways to skim money. ---
**Author:** ![Taiwan\_Luthiers](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@Taiwan\_Luthiers](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Taiwan_Luthiers)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2024, 9:08am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/south-korea-why-is-south-korea-better-than-taiwan-in-the-summer-olympics/242765/84 "2024-08-17T09:08:44Z")
I guess explains the massive public transportation subsidy. I heard from some taiwanese that corruption is tolerated as long as it results in objectives being done. Like say if people’s standard of living improves, they’re fine with corruption. ---
**Author:** ![cjasonc](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/b9e5f3/32.png) [@cjasonc](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/cjasonc)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2024, 9:13am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/south-korea-why-is-south-korea-better-than-taiwan-in-the-summer-olympics/242765/85 "2024-08-17T09:13:15Z")
Just an excuse to hide their shitty ethics. ---
**Author:** ![Bobc9](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/aeb1de/32.png) [@Bobc9](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Bobc9)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2024, 9:16am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/south-korea-why-is-south-korea-better-than-taiwan-in-the-summer-olympics/242765/86 "2024-08-17T09:16:49Z")
correct, South Korean culture is extremely competitive and kids are taught from a young age to always give the extra 20% to be number one. This is they have so many world-class athletes, celebrities, business-people, and so on. On the flip side, this competitiveness and ‘filtering out the weak’ mentality produces a dark side - increasing numbers of younger Koreans suffer from severe the very severe mental illnesses (great sources in this article [Mental health in South Korea - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_health_in_South_Korea#cite_note-:9-1)) with suicide rates increasing dramatically in the last decades. ---
**Author:** ![Bobc9](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/aeb1de/32.png) [@Bobc9](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Bobc9)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2024, 9:17am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/south-korea-why-is-south-korea-better-than-taiwan-in-the-summer-olympics/242765/87 "2024-08-17T09:17:47Z")
Sure, Taiwan has a lot of problems with corruption, etc. But don’t forget, for a tiny island nation, it punches way above its weight. ---
**Author:** ![papertowel](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/papertowel/32/179757_2.png) [@papertowel](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/papertowel)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2024, 10:07am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/south-korea-why-is-south-korea-better-than-taiwan-in-the-summer-olympics/242765/88 "2024-08-17T10:07:31Z")
> [@RickRooney](#): > > Popular yes, good, NO. This is an opinion. I’m not a huge kpop fan but I have to admit it’s far more appealing to western ears than what Taiwan produces. I believe if you look objectively at the music of both countries, you’ll find that Korea has been able to better incorporate more diverse musical ideas. On the other hand, Taiwan’s music still gets held back as it must target the ethnic han population which has had its growth stunted due to government intervention in the arts. ---
**Author:** ![RickRooney](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/59ef9b/32.png) [@RickRooney](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/RickRooney)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2024, 3:33pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/south-korea-why-is-south-korea-better-than-taiwan-in-the-summer-olympics/242765/89 "2024-08-17T15:33:10Z")
I’m by no means a fan of Taiwans music, but don’t forget Taiwan used to be a player in Asian pop music. And at least that music was real music at that time. Kpop is just irredeemable gimmicky shite. ---
**Author:** ![OysterOmelet](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/oysteromelet/32/219695_2.png) [@OysterOmelet](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/OysterOmelet)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2024, 1:11am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/south-korea-why-is-south-korea-better-than-taiwan-in-the-summer-olympics/242765/90 "2024-08-18T01:11:38Z")
> [@RickRooney](#): > > I’m by no means a fan of Taiwans music, but don’t forget Taiwan used to be a player in Asian pop music. And at least that music was real music at that time. Kpop is just irredeemable gimmicky shite. Kpop is popular because they just put a bunch of good looking people with slick choreography. East Asian pop music is crap. Our aboriginal music—that’s good stuff we need to be selling. ---
**Author:** ![OysterOmelet](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/oysteromelet/32/219695_2.png) [@OysterOmelet](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/OysterOmelet)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2024, 3:16am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/south-korea-why-is-south-korea-better-than-taiwan-in-the-summer-olympics/242765/91 "2024-08-18T03:16:41Z")
> [@CTaitung](#): > > After every fukking summer Olympics, Taiwan’s president, no matter which party, seeks “advice” to advance sports domesticatally. It works for about 1 week, and then put in a corner cabinet along with all the other meeting minutes on same subject in the past. Nothing changes, just remains the same. Whew. I thought he was serious. I was like, no way Taiwanese people think sports is that important. ---
**Author:** ![afterspivak](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@afterspivak](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/afterspivak)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2024, 4:14am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/south-korea-why-is-south-korea-better-than-taiwan-in-the-summer-olympics/242765/92 "2024-08-18T04:14:23Z")
> [@OysterOmelet](#): > > **Our** aboriginal music—that’s good stuff **we** need to be selling. First off, I agree that Indigenous music in Taiwan is amazing! Lots of great examples are in this dedicated thread: > [@Aboriginal songs](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/aboriginal-songs/83778): > > A gig done at Witch House: [[查勞&巴西瓦里-PASSIWALI] ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6--yniKlMso) And for something a bit more traditional: [[小美~馬蘭姑娘.MP4] ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2-XhjNyZDQ) This is what someone wrote in the comments: 這首歌的起源是一位來自馬蘭阿美族姑娘勇於追求愛情的故事, 意思是說,因為父母親準備將女兒嫁給一位她不喜歡的男孩, 而女孩已經和另一位男孩私訂終生, 只好不斷的向父母懇求,希望父母能成全她與心上人的婚事, 最後一句歌詞是說如果不答應她將會臥軌自殺讓自己的身體被火車斷成3份, 不過我後來聽長輩的意思是說因為原住民沒有肝腸寸斷的意思, 所以最後的歌詞是向父母形容她將會傷心的肝腸寸斷。 But is it “our” aboriginal music? Who is “we” and do “we” own this creative work? Unless you’re Indigenous and unless this is _your_ work, hands off of the possessives. Guy ---
**Author:** ![BigDave](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/bigdave/32/181371_2.png) [@BigDave](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/BigDave)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2024, 4:32am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/south-korea-why-is-south-korea-better-than-taiwan-in-the-summer-olympics/242765/93 "2024-08-18T04:32:35Z")
I knew you would bite. ---
**Author:** ![afterspivak](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@afterspivak](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/afterspivak)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2024, 4:34am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/south-korea-why-is-south-korea-better-than-taiwan-in-the-summer-olympics/242765/94 "2024-08-18T04:34:17Z")
🐕 + 🦴 😁 Guy ---
**Author:** ![BigDave](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/bigdave/32/181371_2.png) [@BigDave](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/BigDave)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2024, 4:39am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/south-korea-why-is-south-korea-better-than-taiwan-in-the-summer-olympics/242765/95 "2024-08-18T04:39:26Z")
> [@Little League World Series](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/little-league-world-series/243239/1): > > The announcer is calling our country Taiwan the whole game. I think @OysterOmelet is just making sure everyone knows he is Taiwanese. ---
**Author:** ![RickRooney](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/59ef9b/32.png) [@RickRooney](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/RickRooney)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2024, 5:51am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/south-korea-why-is-south-korea-better-than-taiwan-in-the-summer-olympics/242765/96 "2024-08-18T05:51:25Z")
Taiwan aboriginal music ain’t half bad 🕶 [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Rk_sAHh9s08/maxresdefault.jpg " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk_sAHh9s08) ---
**Author:** ![Flakman](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/flakman/32/135214_2.png) [@Flakman](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Flakman)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2024, 11:10am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/south-korea-why-is-south-korea-better-than-taiwan-in-the-summer-olympics/242765/97 "2024-08-18T11:10:25Z")
I would hope any tax payer spent money goes to sport infrastructure in general versus supporting the 1% super athletes for Olympics. Aim for healthier nation versus olympic medal pride. ---
**Author:** ![Explant](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/explant/32/130551_2.png) [@Explant](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Explant)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2024, 2:33pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/south-korea-why-is-south-korea-better-than-taiwan-in-the-summer-olympics/242765/98 "2024-08-18T14:33:13Z")
> [@CTaitung](#): > > After every fukking summer Olympics, Taiwan’s president, no matter which party, seeks “advice” to advance sports domesticatally. It works for about 1 week, and then put in a corner cabinet along with all the other meeting minutes on same subject in the past. Nothing changes, just remains the same. Because it is basically just not importan, all things considered. We have a few people entering, get a few medals. Enough to point out how overtly thy are bending over to Chinese oppression. Mission accomplished. Now let’s focus on real world shit, like commy nazis trying to steal our gold, kill our leaders and rape our females 🙃 ---
**Author:** ![OysterOmelet](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/oysteromelet/32/219695_2.png) [@OysterOmelet](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/OysterOmelet)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 2:11pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/south-korea-why-is-south-korea-better-than-taiwan-in-the-summer-olympics/242765/99 "2024-08-19T14:11:48Z")
> [@Bobc9](#): > > correct, South Korean culture is extremely competitive and kids are taught from a young age to always give the extra 20% to be number one. > > This is they have so many world-class athletes, celebrities, business-people, and so on. > > On the flip side, this competitiveness and ‘filtering out the weak’ mentality produces a dark side - increasing numbers of younger Koreans suffer from severe the very severe mental illnesses (great sources in this article [Mental health in South Korea - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_health_in_South_Korea#cite_note-:9-1)) with suicide rates increasing dramatically in the last decades. I agree with you generally, but if we go to a third country like the USA, where the rules are the most fair, Taiwanese kids have produced a boatload of Silicon Valley company founders and CEOs, while I can’t think of any Korean ones. ---
**Author:** ![Andrew0409](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/andrew0409/32/69821_2.png) [@Andrew0409](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Andrew0409)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 10:50pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/south-korea-why-is-south-korea-better-than-taiwan-in-the-summer-olympics/242765/100 "2024-08-19T22:50:19Z")
> [@Taiwan\_Luthiers](#): > > Do you really think any average Taiwanese making around 30,000 a month can afford to take sports seriously at all, Korean and Taiwan have similar GDP per capita. But yet they have amazing professional leagues like KBO. They have great baseball stadiums with lots of food like you’d find in the US. They also are decent at football with many notable players like Park Ji Sung, the former captain of Man U and now son heung-min who also captains for Tottenham. Taiwans greatest sports export is Chin Ming Wang who did achieve ace status for the Yankees. Another notable is Hong-Chih Kuo who became and all star. even in our best sport, there’s not been that great of players with some in between AAA-MLB level players. Korea has had many great baseball players. Some of them were drunks like Koreans are stereotypical known for 😂 Kang had a DUI that kept him play playing in the MLB and derailed his career. He went back to korea to play and got another DUI > **[Ex-Pirate Kang suspended by KBO for past DUIs](https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/29220000/ex-pirates-infielder-jung-ho-kang-suspended-one-year-kbo-duis)** > > The Korea Baseball Organization suspended infielder Jung Ho Kang for one year on Monday for multiple drunken driving offenses. Shin Soo Choo who I believe still has the record for most HRs for an Asian born player also got a DUI. > **[Indians OF Choo charged with drunken driving](https://www.espn.com/mlb/news/story?id=6472658)** > > Cleveland Indians outfielder Shin-Soo Choo has been charged with drunken driving. [Previous page](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/south-korea-why-is-south-korea-better-than-taiwan-in-the-summer-olympics/242765.md?page=4) [Next page](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/south-korea-why-is-south-korea-better-than-taiwan-in-the-summer-olympics/242765.md?page=6)