[quote=“dablindfrog”]has KIMBO ever fought in MMA or UFC???
if not,how well do you think he would fare??[/quote]
Blind frog. I like Kimbo as I think he has a great personality. However he wasn’t actually that good as a bare knuckle fighter. There are and have been far far better “knuckle men” such as the late Bartley Gorman. You can read his book. You maybe able to get it off Amazon, I also have a copy.
Kimbo fought an MMA guy called Gannon (or something like that) that was a “UFC” standard fighter “although not that good for UFC”. Kimbo lost that fight, but put up a good show (with modified rules). Kimbo went against a high ranked boxer and got totally outclassed although showed his “gameness”.
There are some very good bare knuckle fighters out there far far better than Kimbo. Bare knuckle fighting is still very big business in Europe and especially Northern Ireland. It is very fringe in the USA and not so many people partake as in Irealnd and UK with their large gypsy communities. Top figters can pull in around 50 000 US a fight (sometimes a 100 000). Some people say bare knuckle fighters only do it as they could not be good at legit boxing, that is crap. Most of them do it as they have criminal records and are banned from boxing. It is also in the gypsy community a cultural tradition (as you probably saw in the movie scratch). The Bare knuckle fighter in the movie scratch was based on a boxer called Frankham (who actually trained Brad Pitt for the movie) he was also a very very high ranked legit middle weight boxer. One famous bare knuckle fighter was recently also the number 2 ranked legit heavy weight boxer in Britain. But he still fought bare knuckle as well for the prestige in those communities. Bare knuckle fights are in Britain and Ireland classed into two kinds, “Gypsy rules” and “all in”. Gypsy rules allow for three knockdowns (kneeling onto one knee when hurt, if I remember correctly about 30 seconds to recover). Gloves are optional and headbutting is allowed (to great effect). “All in” means just what it says (completely no rules, biting etc all allowed) but there is a referee just to stop it (usually two elders of the gypsy community) if the other guy is “out”.
The most famous “all in fighter” who died about ten years ago was “Uriah Burton”. Bartley Gorman says in his book about him. Bartley Gorman says
“when I was sixteen I admired only two fighters. Rocky Marciano and Uriah Burton. Everyone had heard of of Marciano, the world heavy weight champion, who never took a backward step and never lost a fight. But Burton was known only in the world of the travellers (gypsies) and his name uttered in hushed tones. He was an ogre they said. He had the strength of five men. He beat opponents two at a time. He would stop at nothing and fight to the death. He sounded like something from the dark ages more myth than man. Only when I came to know him did I realize the stories were true”.
As for weight diffrences I would say it gets less important over about 210 pounds. As at that weight a good boxer can punch so damn hard it doesn’t matter how big the other guy is.
The most famous bare knuckle fight of all time was in 1810 between the British champion Tom Cribb and Molineux (black ajax) who was a freed American slave. They fought 39 rounds !!! You can read about it here (interestingly in those days stand up grappling was permitted).
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