Stereotypical Brits

Have been meaning to do this for a while, ever since I was last accused of Yank-bashing. (All I’m guilty of is stragbashing.)

I am frequently appalled and embarassed by the behaviour of some of my countrymen, and amazed by the things that non-Brits assume about me because of where I come from.

I’m interested to hear what you foreigners have to say about how you imagine Brits to be. What are the current stereotypes? Also, what do other Brits see as the image that we are supposed to be living up to? (or live down!)

Lager louts, James Bond, pompous colonial gits, stiff upper-lipped paragons of conservative respectability, radical free-thinking musicians, what are we supposed to be these days?

And British culture and society should go under the forumosa microscope too. In particular this whole ‘class’ thing.

Anyone who takes offense at the generalizations please remember that they apply to other people - not to you personally.

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All of my interactions with Brits have always been very good. The ones I have met have been very intelligent and nice people. Since I have never visited England, I am only speaking about the ones I have met in Taiwan and in the states.
I also really appreciate the close relationship that England has with America. When America was attacked by terrorists, England proved to be a most loyal and wonderful ally. :notworthy:
All in all, I have to say Brits are good people. :slight_smile:

I took a vacation by myself in London a few years back and had a couple of interesting encounters.

I walked by the palace and a really tall guy walked by and said something to me. I think he said something about how it’s nice to get off work, but I couldn’t make much out of it, not being used to the accent. I think he might have been one of the palace guards. So, I just smiled and said, “Yeah it is”. And then he says, “Straight to the pub.” And walks off.

Then one night I’m walking down the street, I’m by myself and it’s Saturday night. The map says I’m in Soho, but I don’t know. I see a few places that look like clubs, but people inside have spiked hair of various bright colors, so I don’t go in. But a lady walks up to me. She has a short skirt, but not indecent, and she says, “Are you interested in sex at all?” Just as proper and polite as you please.

I don’t know if these are stereotypical, but just a couple of quaint encounters that, as a yank, I found amusing.

Rule Britannia… or Cool Britannia?

Lager louts? I thought you guys were ale drinkers… or is it that the British louts drink lager?

Seriously, I’ve had all good experiences with Brits… even the lowbrow fellow I met and got drunk with on the train going from Denmark to Sweden back in 1982 was a nece enough chap.

Only been to London, and only once… but we had a grand time.

I also think very highly of the Brits. Nice friends to have.

The only time I have a problem is when they get together to drink. There’s always a fistfight.

Overall, it is good to see that at least one country in Europe considers manners, tact, and class to be fairly important things. :notworthy:

I like Brits. But I don’t think they tan as well as whities from other nations. At least that’s my impression.

Nice chaps except when they have a bit too much to drink. Then it’s up with the knuckles.

[quote]The only time I have a problem is when they get together to drink. There’s always a fistfight.
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WHAT THE FUCK? ARE YOU LOOKING FOR TROUBLE, YA BASTARD? EH? EH?

I do not own a football shirt, I can’t even stand the game, and I don’t like lager. Or kebabs.

[quote=“sandman”][quote]The only time I have a problem is when they get together to drink. There’s always a fistfight.
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WHAT THE FUCK? ARE YOU LOOKING FOR TROUBLE, YA BASTARD? EH? EH?
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AND WHAT IF I AM? SIT DOWN BEFORE I BOX YER EARS!
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That’s what the Brit who I got drunk with said to some guy on the train…

[quote=“sandman”][quote]The only time I have a problem is when they get together to drink. There’s always a fistfight.
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WHAT THE FUCK? ARE YOU LOOKING FOR TROUBLE, YA BASTARD? EH? EH?
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I don’t worry about any Brit who wears a tie like the one in your avatar. Is there a Men’s Department where you bought that bad boy, Sandman? :laughing:

One thing I don’t like about the Brits is their love for the most boring game ever invented…soccer. Gawd, what an awful thing to watch.

A bit of possibly meaningless history up front: My father’s family emigrated to America in the 1840s, from England’s Bedfordshire county (some of industrialization’s effects on the shipbuilding industries around Norfolk caused America to look promising to them, I believe). My mother’s family, strangely enough, emigrated from Hertfordshire county (contiguous to Bedfordshire) at about the same time, but neither line came within any real meeting distance of each other until after the US Civil War, when both sides settled in frontier Kansas.

I generally like Brits. I find most of them more polite than North Americans, at least sober (an important distinction, imo). Although I’ve had several British friends whom I considered close to me, I’ve always harbored a sneaking suspicion that the closeness I felt was rather a one-way street.

In other words, I have always felt that there is a top-secret club to which most Brits belong, and that it’s deadly exclusive - no others need apply or, worse, even entertain any notions of really belonging, ever, heaven forbid. It’s strange, it seems it’s even a bit of a mystery to me that from which I’ve been excluded, but I always feel it’s clearly communicated anyway - do NOT ever think you’ll be one of us. It’s a subtle ostracization, though, much subtler than my all caps in the previous sentence, and may be reserved for only us Americans (those in the Commonwealth, including Canadians, do seem to be accepted more readily and more sincerely, imo). And I don’t get that from others, not Canadians nor especially Aussies or Africans. I am sure that when mixed parties break up, the Brits all go back and touch base with each other before finally following each’s independent path - like a soccer club reviewing the match immediately after it ends - possibly to deride the Americans they’ve mingled with that night. Yeah, gotta be. :wink:

I have always found this more amusing than hurtful, actually, but I believe it to be true for good friends I’ve had from London and from the North (of England).

Maybe it all goes back to England’s all-powerful, class-dominated social structures; frontier Kansas was surely not the place any sane Englishman settled. Maybe in some figurative way today’s English can smell Kansas’s topsoil on me still.

Now for a perhaps strange detour: for some reason fred smith has always reminded me of one of those colonial gits you mention, despite the fact that he’s American. Additionally, for some strange reason I’ve formed a mental image of fred smith that’s not only likely to be completely wrong, it’s also more damaging to the image-holder (Sir* Geoffrey Palmer) than fred smith (although that, of course, would follow, it seems to me, in fred smith’s case). [Stop reading now, fred, and it’s really not personal - after all, I don’t even know you. :idunno: ]

For a long time now, fred smith has lived in my mind’s eye as Geoffrey Palmer (sorry, Mr. Palmer). For some inexplicable reason I always “see” Geoffrey Palmer saying whatever fred smith writes. In fact, I tend to see him as Lionel, from As Time Goes By, although I’m sure fred smith must have little in common with that television character (surely, jesus). Here’s fred loudly deriding the cheese-eating surrender monkeys he knows as The French and the goose-stepping moral cowards he knows as The Germans:

Of course, fred smith has to live with that awful green leather, in the picture above, but I’m only too glad to secretly hold that against him - serves his pompous ass right, I think. … hahahaha let’s see what would make a good story my mind’s eye is such a funny place sometimes.

I’m sure that in some way my mind’s association says more about me, and my background, than it does about either Mr. Palmer or fred smith, but hey, you asked.

*-edit: Of course, I got this completely wrong. :blush:

Sir Geoffrey Palmer is a noted kiwi lawmaker and not, alas, the British actor. My mistake was due to an extemely poor edit (actually, in my haste to slander poor fred smith, I googled Geoffrey Palmer, saw a “Sir Geoffrey Palmer” down the page, and in my awful ignorance promptly stuck the “Sir” bit in and then failed to double-check it in an all-too-brief edit. Christ, how lazy…sheesh. In other words, my error was less cultural than characteristic; hmm, maybe this explains that hint of cold-shoulder better than my assumed cultural bit above?).

well i’m a kiwi and we call them poms or pommie bastards…and to paraphrase crowded house when they played the fleadh in london…a nation of “surly wankers”; shite food, shite service and (in london at least) a 3rd world infrastructure…

but thats just the bad side…i’m also a pommie myself so the good side…great pubs, great clubs, and they invented the beautiful game (as played by fulham fc before louis saha moved to the red scum)…oh and the best comedy in the universe; monty python to the office and everything in between (esp. rising damp)

Most of the Brits I have met have been nice enough, but I do have to agree with Flike. They seem to belong to some secret club and at some point that becomes obvious.
They work together to sort things out and very seldom ask other foreigners for help (well that’s my experience).
Perhaps it’s just the ones I’ve met, but there seems to be a preoccupation with money. Constantly counting it, doing calculations, shopping for the ‘best’ buys all to the point of obsessiveness.
Another minor issue seems to be bluntness or directness. Most seem more direct than Americans (who are the ones usually accused of being too forward). Oh, well all in all a great group of guys. :laughing:

In my opinion: :slight_smile:

‘Good’ Brits: sexy accent, very literate and cultured, good with words, well versed in British comedy, geeky, funny as hell

‘Bad’ Brits: snooty, repressed, humourless, anal, controlling, bad teeth

Yes, as an American - probably y’all Canadians and Aussies and Kiwis have the same feelings, we’re all colonials - I have this automatic…not deference, exactly, but a looking up to Brits as more sophisticated, literate, cultured. It’s a faint inferiority complex in regards to the Motherland that most Americans unconsciously carry around. Look at the movies - every time they want to bring in a stereotypical “cultured” snooty lord of the manor type, they cast a guy like Anthony Hopkins, or an American who fakes a snobbish BBC accent. An English accent to Americans denotes old world sophistication.

Flike, I just wanted to say how much I enjoyed your post about Geoffrey Palmer and Brits. I really did LOL. As a Brit, I’d say you’re spot on, and I’m glad someone else like Geoffrey Palmer - I’ve always thought him one of the funniest character actors on TV. The sitcom he did with Judi Dench in the 90s was splendid stuff. Didn’t know he’d been knighted, though.

In the U.S., ALL British TV programs get shown on our educational channel (PBS). Even stuff like Monty Python or Dr. Who. I kid you not.