Stricter laws for Chinese citizens naturalizing and how it may spillover

[Satellite_TV]

Don’t need to pledge any oath when resuming citizenships.

I didn’t pledge any oath for ROC or Irish citizenship. Ireland just said don’t go blowing up any bandsmen by remote control cause we Irish are good at that.

[Satellite_TV]

Roc is already independent

[crusher]

@Satellite_TV

@Quesito

For me is imposible to renounce. This law was made so we never lost our nationality when getting other nationalities.

Good for you then. Several South American countries do not allow people to renounce. So the law allows you to get ROC citizenship and keep your home citizenship which is great. Good thing they didn’t make the law if you cannot renounce you cannot get citizenship.

Renunciation is good for the soul.

Why is it good for the soul ?

[comfy123]

@crusher

Why is it good for the soul ?

I recently renounced mine on the 24th of February and got my citizenship back on the 13th of March.
Those couple of weeks were very soul cleansing and I feel like a new man.

You need to try it

[kahnclusions]

I mean yeah we can say this as a political opinion, and I agree with you in that the ROC and PRC are distinct/independent governments not subordinate to each other, but the legal reality of how China and Chinese people are classified and dealt with by the ROC does not align with our opinions.

The very existence of the mainland affairs council and the Act governing relations with the mainland area contradicts us, as well as the multiple references to national unification in current and recently amended ROC laws.

Again, I ask the same question as I did above.

[comfy123]

@kahnclusions

Are they talking about classifying Chinese nationals as “aliens” in law, living in Taiwan for X years on an alien resident certificate and then making them “naturalize”? Or are we still just talking about “residents of the mainland area of the ROC” obtaining household registration in Taiwan? And trying to make the rules for mainlanders obtaining HHR look very similar to foreigners naturalizing, without taking legal steps that look too much like formal independence?

No. But it is a step in that direction and a step in the right direction if you ask me.

[kahnclusions]

@comfy123

a step in the right direction if you ask me.

Definitely agreed on that one.

[crusher]

@comfy123

@crusher

Why is it good for the soul ?

I recently renounced mine on the 24th of February and got my citizenship back on the 13th of March.
Those couple of weeks were very soul cleansing and I feel like a new man.

You need to try it

I have . I didn’t feel anything but lots of paper work and bother.

[RickRooney]

Pledging an oath is decent, they should make the test tricky. Its quite easy to trigger mainlanders with Taiwan related stuff. Making them say something along the lines of ‘Taiwan is a real country and does not belong to China’ would be a challenging test already i would think.

[slawa]

A KMT bill proposal is calling for the naturalization process of Chinese spouses to be shortened from six years to four. Today, almost 300 people from pro-Taiwan NGOs got together to protest this proposed change, because they fear that Taiwan is following in the footsteps of Hong Kong. The DPP’s Huang Jie is proposing stricter naturalization requirements, which include an oath of allegiance to Taiwan.

Pro-Taiwan groups have slammed KMT proposal to shorten the naturalization process for Chinese spouses from six to four years. The New Party has dismissed the protests as discriminatory, but pro-Taiwan NGOs have fired back, saying that Chinese spouses are receiving preferential treatment.

Pro-Taiwan NGOs oppose shorter naturalization process for Chinese spouses｜Taiwan News

Supporters, opponents of changes to Chinese spouse rules rally in Taipei -...