After trailing CPI since 2008 in the 250cc motorcycle class, SYM pulls ahead of CPI by adding EFI in 2012. SYM T2 250 EFI (aka Wolf SB250Ni ). 6 speed tranny, EURO 3 emisssions, 173 kg (dry), AND 24.7 hp (18.4 KW). Any owner reports?
That bike is still going to be a turd. It is obnoxiously heavy.
173 kgs. What is the average weight for those bikes?
The CPI SM 250 weighs 115 kgs and and I think 24 hp. That is a huge difference.
rk, on your recent circum-wan ride, would the saddle on the T2 have been more comfortable than that on the CPI?
I would say so. I was the only one that was in the most pain. I have ridden my CPI from Taoyuan to Hualien before and that was hard on my ass too. If I do mountain rides though, then my ass is usually ok, but anything around 4 hours or more it starts to be really uncomfortable.
I have never ridden a T2 but I bet it is way more comfortable. That T2 is not going to have nearly as much power though as the CPI
Agreed re: power, though I like the design of the SYM and the company’s QC. I’ve sat on a T2… for 6’2" the CPI ergos are much better … except for the saddle. After 3 hours on a CPI saddle, I get monkey butt that lasts 3 days. I now use an AirHawk cushion on enduro saddles. Raises my c/g a bit, but it avoids 3 days of literal PITA.
But they claim 24.7 hp… so that´s the power, which is greater than CPI´s. The problem is that to accelerate that weight decently you might need more power, perhaps.
I personally hate the outfit of the Quannons and their riders (dunno why 
), let´s see how this T2 looks…
Power/weight ratio? Better on a CPI. CPI: 115 kg (factory says 107 kg) and 24 hp. T2: 173 kg and 24.7hp. Just find someone to drag race that’s 70kg heavier … you get the idea, the T2 is a slug, but a comfortable slug, and weighs less than most 250cc scooters (which usually come in at about 180+ kg).
[quote=“jesus80”]But they claim 24.7 hp… so that´s the power, which is greater than CPI´s. The problem is that to accelerate that weight decently you might need more power, perhaps.
I personally hate the outfit of the Quannons and their riders (dunno why ), let´s see how this T2 looks…[/quote]
A .7 of a hp really doesn’t count for greater horse power. The T2 will be so more more comfortable, but it will just be a turd in performance compared to the CPI. That is just the truth!
I would have much rather ridden that T2 around the island though, hahahahhaha.
[quote=“rk1951”][quote=“jesus80”]But they claim 24.7 hp… so that´s the power, which is greater than CPI´s. The problem is that to accelerate that weight decently you might need more power, perhaps.
I personally hate the outfit of the Quannons and their riders (dunno why ), let´s see how this T2 looks…[/quote]
A .7 of a hp really doesn’t count for greater horse power. The T2 will be so more more comfortable, but it will just be a turd in performance compared to the CPI. That is just the truth!
I would have much rather ridden that T2 around the island though, hahahahhaha.[/quote]
Uhm, the thing is that last weekend I rode for a while a CPI. I felt it perhaps slightly more powerful than mine (suzuki tu250), and asked the guy if it was 24hp as I thought. He said it was 20hp, hence when I wrote this I thought of 20 not 24. I also don’t want to reckon that the CPI has 4 more hp than mine 