Taichung vs. Kaohsiung: What's better?

I have a sad chuckle when I see so many posters in the beginning of this thread touting Kaohsiung’s airport as a plus in its corner. That’s kinda a moot point these days, isn’t it?

I’ve lived in Kaohsiung almost 6 years now and am planted here due to my job, my wife’s job and my daughter’s school, which all three of us are happy with. It’s okay, certainly some nice areas such as Pier 2. But overall I’m not, nor have I ever been, in love with it. I’ve only been to Taichung twice and liked it okay, but not sure what it’d be like to live there. Being a New Yorker originally, I’m a very urban person and if we stay in Taiwan we eventually hope to move to Taipei one day. Can’t imagine leaving Kaohsiung for Taichung, Tainan, etc.

I’m glad I read this thread; I had no idea Taichung had an MRT now.

Had a trip to Taichung yesterday, 4th time I’ve been there. Maybe I have just been in Taipei for too long and have really had enough of the shit weather, humidity and swamp atmosphere and oppressive lack of space.
Taichung felt super nice yesterday. The area around the national theatre was great, space and lots of parks. I actually felt very relaxed when walking around, a rarity in Taipei. The parks there are just better than Taipei’s.

After that we rode to ‘Taichung civic square’ which was vibey and cool. Its nice to see restaurants that have their own separate buildings. Yea, I’ve just had enough of Taipei. I think living in sanchong put me over the edge.

I’ve only been living here in TC for a month or two, so take my comments with a grain of salt, but here goes. I also can’t really compare to KS.

Public transportation is imo still pretty awful. I can reliably youbike faster than taking the bus, and often the bus will arrive early and keep going or arrive way late. I’ve stopped taking it because of this… Just too unreliable, and a PT network hardly exists if it’s an unreliable network. There is a MRT line, but I find it rather limiting… It’s good from getting from Gaotie to the city, but for me it doesn’t really grant you a ton of great options of places to go into itself. It gets you near a lot of places you might want to go, but still far enough away that it’s just not that convenient unless you live right up alongside it, which you probably won’t given that it’s built along the mid-outskirt of the city.

For example, I’m in North District around Yizhong. For me, Yizhong night market area is great for food, so I seldom feel the need to go elsewhere. That said, the bars here are generally lacking or entirely not present. So i sometimes want to go around 草悟道 (Calligraphy Greenway). But I’m drinking, so I can’t ride bike or gogoro, and I’m too far away to walk back. The MRT is way far away, so it doesn’t get you access to that, and the bus after like 11 will takes around the same amount of time as to walk there. Ok, is what it is. Feng Chia is the same. It’s just not the most accessible PT for practical purposes. But hey, it works mostly, when the buses aren’t being ducky and unreliable. If you’ve lived in an European country, it will drive you mad though.

All that said, youbiking here isn’t bad. I can’t really compare it to other cities in TW, I will say the constant traffic lights can be a frustration and are part n parcel with the generally poor urban development of the city. That said, if you’re willing to brave the traffic – it’s not Taipei, there aren’t really accessible bikeways (with a few exceptions, such as the one I love very much running from North district to 草悟道) – the city really ain’t that spread out. I’m a decent biker, but not amazing or anything, and i can pretty reliably get around with it. Although it does scare the shit out of me still sometimes. The poor urban development means there are some awful intersections.

That all sounds pretty negative, but I’m just pretty critically attuned to public transportation issues as it’s a longtime interest of mine. It’s not exceptionally easy to get around Taichung efficiently by transit, but ultimately you can get around.

Otherwise, the vibe here is pretty chill. Much like anywhere else in Taiwan (I assume) the people are friendly but not outgoing if that makes sense – they rarely randomly start a conversation with you. Take that as a plus or minus as you will. But I find the temperatures pretty nice because it’s generally moderated by a nice breeze, pollution generally not too bad in the city. Costs here to eat and live are very reasonable. And as other posters have mentioned, it’s developing at lightspeed. New construction nobody can afford all over the place! :sweat_smile:

As far as parks and such go, I’d say it depends where you are in the city. The newer districts parks are pretty nice to hang out around and are generally vibey. The civic park in particular is always insanely busy. the older districts are hit or miss. But generally there’s always at least one decent park around any district, and a handful of smaller ones. The presence of sidewalks is, much like the parks, contingent on the district, with the newer more moneyed districts having more of them. Surprise! Shopping wise, there’s all kinds of stuff and department stores and I’m fairly confident most people will be more than well enough off with what is available.

Yes it seems like need to walk 20 minutes or more before and after public transportation MRT or bus.

Yizhong night market is nice maybe better than Fengjia. Seems very few bars like a couple. Might be labeled a bar but it’s really a restaurant. Hilarious sandwiched between universities and schools so that’s what it is.

That being said it seems like some of the girls at night market are looking for someone to buy them a new designer bag.

Some other bar areas near train station and behind Sogo along river and around.

There are plenty of bars in Taichung, I think I was speaking of the Yizhong area specifically.

Can u blame them?

Definitely better. Fengjia is cool, big, whatever, but it’s honestly mostly the same stuff but 3 different stands for it. I guess if you’re going to experience the 人山人海 Fengjia is better, but realistically it kinda feels like Taichungs equivalent to Taipei’s … I think it’s shilin? Just big but not necessarily in a good way.

Me 2 duh.

Is common knowledge they’re more than a couple bars in Taichung like hundreds. It may be the most famous bar city in Taiwan especially with the KTVs