Taipei City to replace Gongguan roundabout with controlled intersection - Focus Taiwan

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Wow, an American city going for roundabouts, that’s awesome, I have never seen a roundabout in US before

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I’ll be happy to see this monstrosity gone, I go through it almost every day. I don’t even understand how it’s considered a roundabout when there is also straight through traffic through it. Almost killed myself because I didn’t understand the logic that atrocious box turn in the middle of it.

Plus it’s got more lights than a fucking Christmas Tree. Scrap it and try again, hopefully making it better for peds and bike riders.

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i dont like that they get rid of the underground bus lane though. its the best thing about this messy intersection. now will add another 60+ seconds to the bus ride

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Exactly. The one at chiang kai memorial hall has box turns aswell.

These might be round but if you have to do box turns and wait at lights it isnt a roundabout its just shit.

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I think, with no solid evidence, that this intersection will become more infuriating with endless waits to cross as a pedestrian.

I cross this intersection daily, and, to be fair, I’d rather wait. The motorcycles tend to ignore the pedestrians crossing (especially after 7pm, when the traffic police leave) and I’ve seen my big share of accidents.

Though I agree, it is really annoying that you have to wait about two minutes to cross, especially under intense sunlight or rain. I wish we had these parasols that I saw in Seoul:

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Those are not roundabouts. They’re traffic circles.

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This is not a roundabout. It’s a traffic circle. Completely different.

They are all called roundabouts in the uk, even the mini ones.

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It appears to be both! The right hand lanes tend to traffic circle definition whilst the inner lanes tend towards roundabout, it’s a melting pot!

Apart from the language difference between English and simplified English, there is actually a technical difference between a roundabout and a traffic circle although Americans tend to refer to both as a traffic circle whereas I don’t think actual traffic circles exist in the UK.

Roundabout - Wikipedia

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Carmel, Indiana’s peanut/dogbone/double roundabout interchange. Pure genius. Even better than a diamond interchange.

Driving through Carmel

No traffic lights in sight.

I just went quickly through that video, what am I missing? just looks like a regular newtown suburb.

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I pasted the second video over the first. Fixed it.

It’s just a double roundabout, instead of having the possibility to do a “u-turn” in the first roundabout the middle is stretched to going into the next roundabout.

The good thing, it seems that nowadays US is catching up on going for roundabouts instead of crossings everywhere, as roundabouts are more efficient to handle traffic flows, avoiding the stops. The only concern for roundabouts are that they take a bit more space than a crossing

Yes, but for interchanges.

Its a dog bone roundabout, we have quite a few of these in the uk but you tend not to notice them as the major road normally goes over the top, in fact I would say most motorway intersections are a variation on this with either one or two roundabouts.

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Maybe a non-conforming traffic circle might work in Taiwan better than a modern one - higher speeds and no yielding upon entry sounds like a perfect fit.

Used to use a 5-mini magic roundabout daily in the UK, brilliant things indeed.

Mayor of Carmel: “I get requests every month, it seem, ‘can you get rid of this traffic light near my house or near my business?’ I can’t take a roundabout out if I wanted to.”

Roundabouts are great, but it has to work with public transportation like busses and metros.

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I’d like to read your take on the Chiang Wan-an government’s proposed new design. I’m waiting to be surprised by something good, anything good, from his team . . .

Guy