# Taipei Metro attack, would you help out? Seems more do now

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**Created:** [November 10, 2024, 5:04am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taipei-metro-attack-would-you-help-out-seems-more-do-now/246026 "2024-11-10T05:04:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![DKaoshuing](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/dkaoshuing/32/127142_2.png) [@DKaoshuing](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/DKaoshuing)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 5:04am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taipei-metro-attack-would-you-help-out-seems-more-do-now/246026/1 "2024-11-10T05:04:49Z")

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A lady attacks on the Metro (MRT to elders), but people help out to take her down! Seems much better than before when people would just run away. (Does it seem more Metro problems/crime, or just better media coverage?)

[https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/news/5968122](https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/news/5968122)

Taipei METRO thanks the helpers

> **[8日晚間板南線列車旅客劃傷人事件 臺北捷運獲報第一時間介入處理 約3分鐘後恢復正常營運](https://www.metro.taipei/News_Content.aspx?n=30CCEFD2A45592BF&sms=72544237BBE4C5F6&s=417EF8D63E7309BB)**

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**Author:** ![Kalle](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/aeb1de/32.png) [@Kalle](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Kalle)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 5:47am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taipei-metro-attack-would-you-help-out-seems-more-do-now/246026/2 "2024-11-10T05:47:44Z")

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> [@DKaoshuing](#):
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> people help out to take her down!

From my understanding, one of the person helping was an off-duty cop. I think this makes it easier for others to help if one person runs forward first and take initiative

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**Author:** ![DKaoshuing](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/dkaoshuing/32/127142_2.png) [@DKaoshuing](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/DKaoshuing)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 5:49am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taipei-metro-attack-would-you-help-out-seems-more-do-now/246026/3 "2024-11-10T05:49:13Z")

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> [@Kalle](#):
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> > [@DKaoshuing](#):
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> > people help out to take her down!
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> From my understanding, one of the person helping was an off-duty cop. I think this makes it easier for others to help if one person runs forward first and take initiative

Did not know that, thanks for the update

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**Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 8:39am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taipei-metro-attack-would-you-help-out-seems-more-do-now/246026/4 "2024-11-10T08:39:12Z")

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That police officer (off duty) has apparently been awarded free MRT rides for life!

Guy

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**Author:** ![DrewC](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/drewc/32/224499_2.png) [@DrewC](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/DrewC)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 9:18am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taipei-metro-attack-would-you-help-out-seems-more-do-now/246026/5 "2024-11-10T09:18:20Z")

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If it was a small guy, old person, or woman, I’d help.

If it was a huge 200kg mofo, I’d run.

Being honest here lol.

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**Author:** ![cdn1234](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/cdn1234/32/202817_2.png) [@cdn1234](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/cdn1234)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 9:39am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taipei-metro-attack-would-you-help-out-seems-more-do-now/246026/6 "2024-11-10T09:39:30Z")

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I always carry a pocket knife with me, but I don’t think my scrawny ass gonna be pulling off any heroic acts with that 😅😅

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**Author:** ![eldrich](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/b487fb/32.png) [@eldrich](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/eldrich)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 11:23am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taipei-metro-attack-would-you-help-out-seems-more-do-now/246026/7 "2024-11-10T11:23:17Z")

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I did notice after the 1st person had a go then others decided to help, I wonder if that 1st one was the off-duty rozzer?

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**Author:** ![Andrew](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/andrew/32/179806_2.png) [@Andrew](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Andrew)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 11:29am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taipei-metro-attack-would-you-help-out-seems-more-do-now/246026/8 "2024-11-10T11:29:13Z")

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> [@DrewC](#):
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> If it was a small guy, old person, or woman, I’d help.
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> If it was a huge 200kg mofo, I’d run.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/2yugkec7kmI/maxresdefault.jpg ""I don't run" | Dexter S7.E4 | #Shorts") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yugkec7kmI)

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**Author:** ![Marco](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/marco/32/179744_2.png) [@Marco](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Marco)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 11:58am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taipei-metro-attack-would-you-help-out-seems-more-do-now/246026/9 "2024-11-10T11:58:30Z")

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Now that is a rare TPass!

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**Author:** ![Marco](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/marco/32/179744_2.png) [@Marco](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Marco)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 12:01pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taipei-metro-attack-would-you-help-out-seems-more-do-now/246026/10 "2024-11-10T12:01:05Z")

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> [@cdn1234](#):
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> I always carry a pocket knife with me, but I don’t think my scrawny ass gonna be pulling off any heroic acts with that 😅😅

This is illegal.

> **[Regulations%20for%20Use%20of%20the%20Taipei%20Metro%20System-English.pdf](https://web.metro.taipei/QRCode/Regulations%20for%20Use%20of%20the%20Taipei%20Metro%20System-English.pdf?date=20241001)**
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Article 28.

It’s an up to million dollar fine too.

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**Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 12:22pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taipei-metro-attack-would-you-help-out-seems-more-do-now/246026/11 "2024-11-10T12:22:26Z")

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A knife is as dangerous as a gun, and has the disadvantage of having very short range too. If you get into a knife fight, you WILL get cut.

I don’t know the laws regarding carrying a pocket knife in Taiwan, but I think the MRT has rules against unsecured/improperly packaged knives.

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**Author:** ![Andrew](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/andrew/32/179806_2.png) [@Andrew](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Andrew)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 12:23pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taipei-metro-attack-would-you-help-out-seems-more-do-now/246026/12 "2024-11-10T12:23:00Z")

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> [@Marco](#):
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> This is illegal.

That’s just the TRTC’s regulations, not a “law” in itself, so I think not “illegal” per se:

> **What is the consequence of those who violate the “Regulations for Use of the Taipei Metro System”?**  
> The TRTC may refuse to provide transport services to persons in breach of the above regulations. Passengers in violation of the penal provisions of the Mass Rapid Transit Act or Taipei Rapid Transit System Directions for Passenger Transportation Services are punishable by law, and the TRTC or police may demand them to leave Taipei Metro premises. No refund will be made on fares for uncovered journeys.  
> [[Source](https://english.metro.taipei/News_Content.aspx?n=034BD8E0AB821D47&sms=5B794C46F3CDE718&s=D16829AEB74D1DCE)]

> [@Marco](#):
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> It’s a million dollar fine too.

NT$10,000 to _no more than NT$1 million_:

> In the event of any of the following circumstances, a fine of at least NT$10,000 but no more than NT$1 million shall be imposed:
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> 1. Carrying materials announced as hazardous or flammable into the routes, depots, stations, or vehicles of a mass rapid transit system without permission.  
> [[Source](https://law.moj.gov.tw/ENG/LawClass/LawAll.aspx?pcode=K0120001)]

This is assuming that pocket knives fall under “materials announced as hazardous or flammable” under the Mass Rapid Transit Act, which I don’t think is a given — that looks to be more talking about chemicals, explosives, and flammable stuff, though it may just be a poor translation.

I can’t see someone getting fined NT$1 million (or even NT$10,000) for a small pocket knife, anyway… unless they’ve done something else that makes carrying the knife a secondary issue to that (like attacking someone).

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**Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 12:24pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taipei-metro-attack-would-you-help-out-seems-more-do-now/246026/13 "2024-11-10T12:24:08Z")

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> [@Taiwan\_Luthiers](#):
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> A knife is as dangerous as a gun, and has the disadvantage of having very short range too.

This BS _again_? :roll:

It’s not.

> [@Taiwan\_Luthiers](#):
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> If you get into a knife fight, you WILL get cut.

No you WON’T, not necessarily. :roll:

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**Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 12:31pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taipei-metro-attack-would-you-help-out-seems-more-do-now/246026/14 "2024-11-10T12:31:55Z")

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how would you approach the attacker?

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**Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 12:36pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taipei-metro-attack-would-you-help-out-seems-more-do-now/246026/15 "2024-11-10T12:36:31Z")

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> [@ponlaihop](#):
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> how would you approach the attacker?

Me? I’m not sure, why do you ask?

I’d either bust out some of my ninja moves, hide behind an old lady, or leg it depending on the situation. I guess it’s hard to know without being there. 🤷‍♂️

I also don’t use the MRT enough to much care about having free rides for life, so TRTC would need to up its rewards policy if they want me running in there like Steven Seagal in the 1990s to sort shit out for them.

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**Author:** ![Kalle](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/aeb1de/32.png) [@Kalle](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Kalle)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 12:37pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taipei-metro-attack-would-you-help-out-seems-more-do-now/246026/16 "2024-11-10T12:37:24Z")

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The 2014 fatal attack by that psycho boy, showed the most success was people using Umbrellas to keep him on a distance. A long umbrella gives you the reach to try to stay out of harms way

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**Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 12:44pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taipei-metro-attack-would-you-help-out-seems-more-do-now/246026/17 "2024-11-10T12:44:11Z")

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> [@Kalle](#):
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> The 2014 fatal attack by that psycho boy, showed the most success was people using Umbrellas to keep him on a distance. A long umbrella gives you the reach to try to stay out of harms way

Same with the one in Taichung earlier this year, though IIRC that guy’s targeting system was a bit off:

[https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/news/5884890](https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/news/5884890)

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**Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 12:51pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taipei-metro-attack-would-you-help-out-seems-more-do-now/246026/18 "2024-11-10T12:51:04Z")

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I’ve little idea about self defence, even if this is a bit different situation, but yes I guess you react by …well, by what? Reflex, training, instinct, guesswork. Having some sort of “weapon” (umbrella, bag, helmet) seems a good help. Get support from other passenger

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**Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 12:57pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taipei-metro-attack-would-you-help-out-seems-more-do-now/246026/19 "2024-11-10T12:57:29Z")

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> [@Taiwan\_Luthiers](#):
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> A knife is as dangerous as a gun

Based on what? Ludicrous statement. Why on earth would you write that? Bring a knife to a gun fight and see what happens.

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**Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 12:58pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taipei-metro-attack-would-you-help-out-seems-more-do-now/246026/20 "2024-11-10T12:58:26Z")

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I confronted someone try to steal from me on the street, the guy ran away (Italy), wonder would person in Taiwan also run away if you yelled at them. Maybe not best thing to do, but i was not happy. But still I would try help out in Taiwan (some other countries maybe not)

> [@eu Europe | Choosing last country on European trip](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/europe-choosing-last-country-on-european-trip/220757/188):
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> Milano , someone (a young man) threw sauce at the back of me (a scam). nothing lost or taken (still not happy though), since I did not stop walking till a place that had lights and ask (told) him something, he ran off. I flew in from Estonia, so I let my guard down a bit (Estonia/Finland is like Japan, pretty safe). Italy still a great place to visit, a few bad people here though.

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