# šŸš‡ Taipei - MRT | Neihu MRT to Keelung? **URL:** \ **Category:** Taiwan Travel\ **Tags:** keelung, mrt\ **Created:** [October 28, 2007, 3:23am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taipei-mrt-neihu-mrt-to-keelung/41151 "2007-10-28T03:23:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![tommy525](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tommy525/32/272487_2.png) [@tommy525](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tommy525)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2007, 3:23am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taipei-mrt-neihu-mrt-to-keelung/41151/1 "2007-10-28T03:23:35Z")
Neihu MRT to Keelung? I think its a great idea : from todays TaipeiTimes POLITICS Ma promises MRT to Keelung During a stopover in Keelung on his campaign trail yesterday, Chinese Nationalist Party (KMT) Ma Ying-jeou (é¦¬č‹±ä¹) said that if elected, he would expand the Neihu MRT line all the way to the harbor city. He also vowed to boost Keelungā€™s economy by opening up direct links with China and open up tourism to Chinese tourists. ā€œAs your next president, I will increase the business opportunities at Keelung Harbor. I will also strengthen local tourism. My victory will be Keelungā€™s prosperity,ā€ Ma said to a group of supporters. In a meeting with the media, Ma said that in the next five to 10 years, Keelung Harbor would play a vital role as a cargo transportation hub connecting both sides of the strait. The harbor should also play a strong role in attracting Chinese tourists, he said. Ma said expanding the Neihu MRT line to Keelung would connect the city to the science park chain that includes the Nangang Science Park and the Neihu Science Park. ---
**Author:** ![cranky\_laowai](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/fbc32d/32.png) [@cranky\_laowai](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/cranky_laowai)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2007, 10:58am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taipei-mrt-neihu-mrt-to-keelung/41151/2 "2007-10-28T10:58:48Z")
A great idea? I read the same story earlier and thought it was pure campaign pork-barrel bullshit on Maā€™s part. The MRT is meant for urban areas with high population densities, which doesnā€™t exactly fit the description of the area between Nangang and Jilong. A full MRT train probably has more people than lots of those little towns in between. And, anyway, Nangang and Jilong are already connected ā€“ by the regular train line. ---
**Author:** ![hannes](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/hannes/32/161150_2.png) [@hannes](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/hannes)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2007, 11:29am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taipei-mrt-neihu-mrt-to-keelung/41151/3 "2007-10-28T11:29:58Z")
Not many people, but a lot of containers between Taipei and Keelungā€¦ šŸ˜‰ Connecting Xizhi would make sense, though, and once there IS an MRT line in place, development of residential areas will surely follow soon. ---
**Author:** ![Belgian\_Pie](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/8dc957/32.png) [@Belgian\_Pie](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Belgian_Pie)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2007, 11:32am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taipei-mrt-neihu-mrt-to-keelung/41151/4 "2007-10-28T11:32:03Z")
Why would they? The train already goes to Keelung ā€¦ they could increase frequency on them first before investing in another system ā€¦ would almost be the same as building an MRT line to Ingge ā€¦ Itā€™s totally ridiculous ā€¦ promising ā€¦ again another of Maā€™s empty promises ā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![tempogain](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tempogain/32/264650_2.png) [@tempogain](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tempogain)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2007, 12:07pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taipei-mrt-neihu-mrt-to-keelung/41151/5 "2007-10-28T12:07:39Z")
[quote=ā€œcranky laowaiā€]A great idea? I read the same story earlier and thought it was pure campaign pork-barrel bullshit on Maā€™s part. The MRT is meant for urban areas with high population densities, which doesnā€™t exactly fit the description of the area between Nangang and Jilong. A full MRT train probably has more people than lots of those little towns in between. And, anyway, Nangang and Jilong are already connected ā€“ by the regular train line.[/quote] i tend to disagree, this is light rail being discussed, like the mucha line. i think the idea has merit. ---
**Author:** ![tommy525](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tommy525/32/272487_2.png) [@tommy525](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tommy525)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2007, 4:02pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taipei-mrt-neihu-mrt-to-keelung/41151/6 "2007-10-28T16:02:40Z")
There was a time when I didnt have a car and had to take the bus to jilong and then transfer to another bus to wanli. And let me tell you. The express bus to jilong (dang I just cant spell it as jilong) was every 2 or 3 minutes and it was packed. There is simply A LOT of people commuting between Jilong and Taipei. YOu just have NO IDEA. The regular trains are way too slow. They have the tienche between Jilong and Taipei, but theres not enough of them to rely on and they make stops. The express bus made no stops until it arrived at its first taipei stop. There were 2 stops before the main taipei station if memory serves me. The neihu light rail system would be very well used if it went to keelung. The real worry is whether its just campaign horse manure. ---
**Author:** ![Traveller](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/71c47a/32.png) [@Traveller](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Traveller)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 1:46am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taipei-mrt-neihu-mrt-to-keelung/41151/7 "2007-10-29T01:46:03Z")
> [@tommy525](#): > > The real worry is whether its just campaign horse manure. This is precisly what it is. What few people here realise including the locals is that current regulations here in Taiwan forbid the trans shipping of cargo, never mind that nothing is set up for it. Unless these regs are changed then Maā€™s comments about making it a local hub and just empty rhetoric ---
**Author:** ![Rascal](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/439d5e/32.png) [@Rascal](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Rascal)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 2:46am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taipei-mrt-neihu-mrt-to-keelung/41151/8 "2007-10-29T02:46:37Z")
> [@Tempo Gain](#): > > i tend to disagree, this is light rail being discussed, like the Muzha line. I think the idea has merit. That light rail is part of the MRT system, but I am not particular fond of the brown line technolgy (small and only few cars per train). Thus I would favor an extention of the Nangan line, or a new spur line or something like that. ---
**Author:** ![tommy525](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tommy525/32/272487_2.png) [@tommy525](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tommy525)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 2:57am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taipei-mrt-neihu-mrt-to-keelung/41151/9 "2007-10-29T02:57:53Z")
> [@Rascal](#): > > [quote=ā€œTempo Gainā€]i tend to disagree, this is light rail being discussed, like the Muzha line. I think the idea has merit. That light rail is part of the MRT system, but I am not particular fond of the brown line technolgy (small and only few cars per train). Thus I would favor an extention of the Nangan line, or a new spur line or something like that.[/quote] I tend to think you are right. The light rail may become a shortsighted solution. The main MRT LINE extension would make more sense. p.s. we are not talking about moving cargo. just people. ---
**Author:** ![Belgian\_Pie](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/8dc957/32.png) [@Belgian\_Pie](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Belgian_Pie)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 3:03am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taipei-mrt-neihu-mrt-to-keelung/41151/10 "2007-10-29T03:03:42Z")
They just need to increase frequency and use other (new) trains to make better use of the existing train line ā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![tommy525](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tommy525/32/272487_2.png) [@tommy525](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tommy525)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 3:23am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taipei-mrt-neihu-mrt-to-keelung/41151/11 "2007-10-29T03:23:27Z")
> [@Belgian Pie](#): > > They just need to increase frequency and use other (new) trains to make better use of the existing train line ā€¦ The existing rail tracks have to carry freight and cargo for the entire East Taiwan lines from Patu to TAipei. Keelung to Patu is only about five mins train journey. Plus the signal system is relatively archaic and would completely have to be replaced in order to accomodate closer separation of trains. An MRT system is heavily controlled. In fact all trains are computer driven. The main rail line from Patu to Taipei is driver driven and not computer driven. It may cost a billion dollars to upgrade the existing railway to the standards required for high capacity transit. It may cost 3 billion to extend the MRT to Keelung. But Taiwan has the money. I would say the most farsighted approach is to extend the main MRT to Keelung. But at least the Neihu light rail system if that were to be say 1/3 the cost. Seems at least half the population of Keelung works in TAipei. Thats a lot of people. ---
**Author:** ![tempogain](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tempogain/32/264650_2.png) [@tempogain](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tempogain)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 3:35am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taipei-mrt-neihu-mrt-to-keelung/41151/12 "2007-10-29T03:35:08Z")
a nankang line extension would probably be overkill considering the light population between the two cities. the best solution might be ā€œBus Rapid Transitā€ style dedicated bus lanes connecting to the nankang line terminus. ---
**Author:** ![tommy525](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tommy525/32/272487_2.png) [@tommy525](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tommy525)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 3:52am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taipei-mrt-neihu-mrt-to-keelung/41151/13 "2007-10-29T03:52:47Z")
> [@Tempo Gain](#): > > a Nankang (Nangang) line extension would probably be overkill considering the light population between the two cities. the best solution might be ā€œBus Rapid Transitā€ style dedicated bus lanes connecting to the Nankang (Nangang) line terminus. However, the existence of MRT stations would certainly bode well for development. Taipei needs to expand and why not cover some of the areas between keelung and taipei? ---
**Author:** ![Belgian\_Pie](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/8dc957/32.png) [@Belgian\_Pie](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Belgian_Pie)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 5:09am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taipei-mrt-neihu-mrt-to-keelung/41151/14 "2007-10-29T05:09:17Z")
Itā€™d be better they start building an extension to Sanxia first ā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![tommy525](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tommy525/32/272487_2.png) [@tommy525](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tommy525)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2019, 2:02pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taipei-mrt-neihu-mrt-to-keelung/41151/15 "2019-12-07T14:02:40Z")
Well has the MRT gone to Keelung yet? ---
**Author:** ![tando](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/6f9a4e/32.png) [@tando](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tando)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2019, 2:30pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taipei-mrt-neihu-mrt-to-keelung/41151/16 "2019-12-07T14:30:28Z")
> [@Trams in TW](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/trams-in-tw/168626/49): > > One year more, and New Taipei will receive on of these trams too. Danhai LRT should be open at the end of this year, if nothing will go wrong. These trams will be made in Taiwan, unlike Kaohsiung ones. And the President announced that Taipei-Keelung tram project recently, with proposed terminus at Nangang. [image] ---
**Author:** ![tommy525](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tommy525/32/272487_2.png) [@tommy525](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tommy525)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2019, 2:31pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taipei-mrt-neihu-mrt-to-keelung/41151/17 "2019-12-07T14:31:30Z")
> [@tando](#): > > [Trams in TW - #49 by DeathRidesGogoro](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/trams-in-tw/168626/49) Not the MRT though. ---
**Author:** ![tempogain](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tempogain/32/264650_2.png) [@tempogain](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tempogain)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2019, 2:36pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taipei-mrt-neihu-mrt-to-keelung/41151/18 "2019-12-07T14:36:55Z")
> **[Keelung mayor outlines plans for new MRT line connecting Taipei-Keelung |...](https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3416021)** > > Construction will begin after a final report, to be submitted in June.On Thursday April 26, the mayor of Keelung Lin Yu-Chang (ęž—å³ę˜Œ) discussed the plans for a light rail MRT that has been approved for construction, which will link Taipei and Keelung... No news lately. ---
**Author:** ![Marco](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/marco/32/179744_2.png) [@Marco](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Marco)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2019, 4:51pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taipei-mrt-neihu-mrt-to-keelung/41151/19 "2019-12-07T16:51:01Z")
> [@tommy525](#): > > Neihu MRT to Keelung? I think its a great idea : from todays TaipeiTimes > > POLITICS > Ma promises MRT to Keelung > During a stopover in Keelung on his campaign trail yesterday, Chinese Nationalist Party (KMT) Ma Ying-jeou (é¦¬č‹±ä¹) said that if elected, he would expand the Neihu MRT line all the way to the harbor city. He also vowed to boost Keelungā€™s economy by opening up direct links with China and open up tourism to Chinese tourists. ā€œAs your next president, I will increase the business opportunities at Keelung Harbor. I will also strengthen local tourism. My victory will be Keelungā€™s prosperity,ā€ Ma said to a group of supporters. In a meeting with the media, Ma said that in the next five to 10 years, Keelung Harbor would play a vital role as a cargo transportation hub connecting both sides of the strait. The harbor should also play a strong role in attracting Chinese tourists, he said. Ma said expanding the Neihu MRT line to Keelung would connect the city to the science park chain that includes the Nangang Science Park and the Neihu Science Park. Boy did that die quickly. ---
**Author:** ![the\_bear](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/the_bear/32/192391_2.png) [@the\_bear](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/the_bear)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2019, 9:41pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taipei-mrt-neihu-mrt-to-keelung/41151/20 "2019-12-07T21:41:23Z")
Pretty standard Ma. Other great ideas: citywide free WLAN network, numerical street names. [Next page](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taipei-mrt-neihu-mrt-to-keelung/41151.md?page=2)