Taipei Nightlife


#1

Hi! I am looking for some local people who can show me the good places of Taipei’s night life.
I like house and electronic music.
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#2

hello…there seems to be an ever increasing number of house fans here (check out day’s post on nightlife further down) I am a house dj from canada and am slowly piecing together the scene here. I’ve met some other foreigners looking for the same thing as well as some locals who enjoy a good 4/4 beat when they hear one. Email me and i’ll let you know next time we all get together. I’ve been contacted by a production company and we are working together to create a monthly house event…stay tuned. sauce_e@hotmail.comSaucey’s bio and pics


#3

Hey - nice to see people getting into 4/4’s here …

My only issue is that house is soooooo huge - in terms of sub-genres … might cater for your tastebds but no-one here caters for mine

what we have is …
Deep house
uplifting house/trance
sexy house
progressive house
and absolute shite house !!
like gatecrasher/ministry/global underground bollocks and us house - no offenese but it’s shite)

Then right down my alley is …

UK Hard house - non exsistent here (if any, it’s tidy or nukleuz - blegh)
Nu Nrg - NON exsistent here
Hard Nrg - NON exsistent here
Hard trance - NON exsistent here
Goa/pshyc trance - exsistent but lame and has a freakin gimp following - urgh

See what I mean - some clubs here might play what they call “hardhouse” but in fact it’s us hardhouse or progressive house - why even put the genre on a flyer if you have no freakin clue hat you talking about.

So what have I done but bitch about this - bought a pc and make my own tunes at home - and it’s a far cry from anything but at least I enjoy my music now … geez.

There has been one event in the last year worth going to if you into my range of music and it was Billy “Daniel” Bunter from Honeypot records and UK hard (with Jon Doe) …

There are also loads of “underground” parties held in old buildings, film studios etc - it was horrible - what’s a night without a decent rig and I mean a bunch of speaker that are not so overloded with bass that it distorts and there are no mids or tops ???

I bitch - I know - I have reason … Or do I ?


#4

Categorizing music is a sketchy proposition at best, but, it seems that you are lumping “progressive house” with “hard house”.

Progressive house and deep house generally consists of slower beats with a concentration on the psychedlic treble (as opposed to the bone crushing bass). On the other hand, hard house focuses more on the bass and has a more (or higher) BPM.

I mention this because I was wondering where you heard progressive house in Taipei.

Also, I have been here for 2 years and am out of the loop in regards to new music, but what is NRG? or was it NG


#5

Are you kidding me ?!!

Ok - NrG came to the dance world (in the uK the time) in 80’s in the form of hi-nrg … this was after the disco of the 70’s. It was more of a gay comunity in the uk partying to this. In the early 90’s blue Peter coined the word Nu nrg (new energy) and this was the other side of UK hard house (which is definately hard as nails with massive basslines and hard hitting hoovers) - nu nrg is with much more serious mc 303 (synth) acid sounds ripping as a riff in the track … ofcourse still having the massive basslines and big stabs. In recent years Dj Kristian (Kaktai records) coined the word Hard Nrg - this is where hard house meets acid techno and nu nrg. The true evil shite !! Ooooohhh yeah !! Probably the most recongnised hard nrg producers would be Captain Tinrib, Karim, Lab 4, K90, Max the Alien , etc.

Understand more now ? Most this music is based out of the UK (a bit from germany and so on …)

Mate - to stick music in genres is a tad lame - but look at the whole - your house and my house aint built on the same taste if you get what I’m saying.

As for progressive house … it’s a faaaaaaaaaar cry from hard house - there are so many yet subtle differences between some (hardhouse, nu nrg) genres - but progressive and hard is nothing alike. Nor is progressive and deep, nor is hard nrg and hard trance, nor is goa trance and psychadelic trance - there are massive differences !! Massive !!

This is not pointed at you, unless you want it to be - but there are some fuckin ignorant people talking about shit they know nothing about, and those who want to know more, so I respect your interest


#6

Just to add to what you said on progressive and deep house - you are right - it gets played out at around 120 bpm’s - pushing it if talk 130. I call this “glitter ball trance” … the trance bit only coz thats how they call it in the UK - uplifting trance instead of uplifting house. See - more differences.

Hard house is played out at 140 minimum and builds through the night to 160 max - no one really goes that far - you’ll have panting munters on the dancefloor if you do - however LAb4 does there live PA’s regurly at that speed. Yoji Biomehanika from japan does the same thing, although he produces alota shite tracks he is a wicked dj.


#7

I can’t see how deep house is even remotely related to progressive house. Progressive house is much more mainstream and is a mix between Progressive and House (surprise!) deep house is much less in your face and is more about creating a feeling or vibe, along with very subtle lighting and small intimate venues. Prog. House is what you hear on BBC radio one played by all the jocks in the UK. ie…Judge Jules etc. Deep House is ofter refered to as “boring”, which is usually a result of ignorance…


#8

Deep house and progressive house are related in many ways - more than just remotely.

  1. They are both subgenres of house.

  2. They both reside around the same BPM.

  3. They are both forms of “happy” music - as opposed to hardcore or, arguably, hard house and hard trance. Many tracks in both sub-genres possess vocals.

  4. I like to dance to both of them.

  5. The line between them blurs when you talk about remixes of popular music (e.g. Dido remixes or the like)

As for the NRG thing. My god! I think it must not be so popular in the states. I have been in the “scene” for about ten years and I’ve never heard of it. But then again, perhaps I wasn’t looking for it. It sounds like the soundtrack played on continuous loop in hell. But, different strokes for diff’t folks.


#9
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Originally posted by : I can't see how deep house is even remotely related to progressive house. Progressive house is much more mainstream and is a mix between Progressive and House (surprise!) deep house is much less in your face and is more about creating a feeling or vibe, along with very subtle lighting and small intimate venues. Prog. House is what you hear on BBC radio one played by all the jocks in the UK. ie..Judge Jules etc. Deep House is ofter refered to as "boring", which is usually a result of ignorance..

I am not saying it’s the same - what I am saying is that progressive is the step up from deep to funky to progressive - it’s played out at lower bmp’s as hard house/nrg.

Deep house is definately a different “vibe” to prog. Most defo ! It’s not boring at all - it’s actualy very inovative and freash with awesome collection of strings and ambient sounds filtered to bits. Great stuff! Lots of the Global underground producers are great, but not what I buy. I too like to chill sometimes and revert to deep, funky house rather than relentless banging house. But the more evil and hard it is the more I love it though - hell yeah !!

Don’t generalise about being ignorant - I could have the same argument about people thinking other styles (note I am not saying just my style) of music is not origanal, fresh and inovative. If it’s well produced - I’ll say it is and like it.


#10
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Originally posted by dbbowman: As for the NRG thing. My god! I think it must not be so popular in the states. I have been in the "scene" for about ten years and I've never heard of it. But then again, perhaps I wasn't looking for it. It sounds like the soundtrack played on continuous loop in hell. But, different strokes for diff't folks. [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]

Hahaha - now that would be ignorance --> “continuous loop in hell”
NrG is exactly what it says - Energy - and lots of it !!

Have a look (AND LISTEN) to some artists - everything but a continuous loop - if you know anything about producing at all …
not that you should - btw - I wasn’t being rude with that comment.

www.tinrib.com
www.donotbend.co.uk www.alien-trax.freeserve.co.uk www.lab4.com www.jon-doe.com www.nukleuz.com www.shockrecords.co.uk www.wasa-b.com www.arriba-records.com

or for a variety of samples of the newest tunes out have a listen on …
www.bangingtunes.com

I am not surprised that you havent seen/heard much of NrG in the states - it hs only in the last couple years filtrated into a few clubs and a few dj’s record boxes - US hardhouse (which is indeed deep/funky house - IMHO) has been, and still is the choice of us dj’s - respected.

Please note that Uk harhouse was born and bread in the UK and so was Nrg in all is forms - be it hi, nu or hard. It has been around in the UK as of the mid 80’s.

I am not feeling/saying/implying what I like is better than anyone else for I have a wide taste in music. Like I said … If it is WELL PRODUCED I will defo like it.

Later then


#11

Well, I like Bob Dylan’s new record.


#12

Dont worry, im not saying deep house is boring…im just refering to what a lot of (my friends?) refer to it. Its also referred to as “Dad House”, if you like deep and funky check out J-Dub - Vergence, or Heathers Tangerine.


#13

yeah, it’s nice to know about all that if you’re into that kind of music, but for those of us who actually prefer something you can dance to without feeling like the next dance move should be your head against the wall to make it stop, for those who like words and some variety in our music, where can we go?


#14

What about those of us who enjoy dancing in odd meters, such as 5/4 and 7/8? Or how about 2 bars of 4/4, 1 bar of 6/4, 1 bar of 3/4, 1 bar of 6/4 and three bars of 4/4. That’s some tough shit to dance to, but it’s more challenging then beating your head against a wall.


#15

I suppose you guys would want to go to spin or room 18 or Rockcandy 2 or mmm … maybe not. I actually don’t know where you’d find some odd bar music around here … other than the muso coming out your cd player beacuse of the new cd you bought.

I don’t think that Taiwan offers much other than their beloved chinese artists and hip-hop. I mean there is no 2step, garage, acid techno, etc here. On the band scene I beleive they have some bands doing their thing but surely that must be limited to an extant as well.

Kinda shitty when your into some (anything that might be) style of music, used to enjoy going to your fav pub, club, gathering, blah and here it;s much rather a different mission to hear exactly what tickles your fancy.

So be it then - get used to it is all there is hey …