I am moving to Taiwan in a couple months, and I am trying to decide whether to live in Taipei or a smaller city. Obviously there are a lot of factors to consider, like cost of living etc. One factor which I have only seen obliquely discussed is the difference in the dating environment in those different settings.
I get the impression that in Taipei there are lots of clubs, lots of girls interested in foreign guys, and that it’s generally quite easy to get out and meet a lot of potential girlfriends. In a smaller city I guess there wouldn’t be so many clubs, and maybe the general English proficiency is lower, too? (I want to learn Mandarin as much as possible, so that’s not necessarily a bad thing)
Anyway, I think I don’t really know enough here to make the question much more specific, but I’d be interested in hearing any thoughts/experiences… Oh, I’m 24 and white, in case that makes a difference.
In my experience, you very rarely make lasting relationships with ANYONE you meet in clubs, wherever you are in the world.
Yes, there are a few women who fit your needs. But why worry about this now?
There are much bigger concerns about moving abroad than “Are there gonna be people there who can dance on my bell end?”
[quote=“Funk500”]In my experience, you very rarely make lasting relationships with ANYONE you meet in clubs, wherever you are in the world.
Yes, there are a few women who fit your needs. But why worry about this now?
There are much bigger concerns about moving abroad than are there gonna be people there who can dance on my bell end.[/quote]
Words of wisdom indeed. That said, the hicks down south tend to be a lot more conservative than their Taipei sisters. I’ve heard stories.
I definitely realize that dating should not be my primary concern in where to live, and it’s not. However, romantic relationships are a big part of life, no? And people aren’t necessarily always looking for a long-term relationship, either.
[quote=“dong bu ting”]However, romantic relationships are a big part of life, no? And people aren’t necessarily always looking for a long-term relationship, either.[/quote]Yep, they are. Nope, they’re not. But make sure. Read up on the psycho xiaojie nightmare.
Which small towns are you considering? Hualien for example is a small town but has a university that attracts students from all over the country, including girls with decent English. It also has a few bars but nothing like clubs.
Puli might give you more troubles. The best English speakers there will be nuns from the Chung Tai Chan monastery.
Yeah, I’ve read a few threads here about that… It seems to me that Taipei girls would be generally less likely to “go psycho”, does that seem true? I don’t want to give the wrong impression, either… if I hit it off with a girl, we’re likely to go out for quite a while, or least that is my track record. And the times I’ve had a short-term fling, it’s generally been the girl who broke it off, not me. But I am VERY aware of the potential for psycho xiaojie trouble, and that awareness will inform my actions regardless of where I live.
Yeah, I’ve read a few threads here about that… It seems to me that Taipei girls would be generally less likely to “go psycho”, does that seem true?[/quote]You’d think, but psychotic stalkers are universal. Some of them even start out thinking: “I just want to have fun.”
I’d suggest you choose where to go based on other criteria, but then, my decision to come to Taiwan rather than return to Japan came down to “Chinese girls? Japanese girls?”
I concur to the fact that females tend to be more conservative in a smaller town than in Taipei.
First of all, unless they are university students, they are more likely to live with their parents.
Secondly, they are in a smaller environment, one where they will get recognized (and labelled a skank by the local community) much easier.
I have been dating in small towns here, however those dates were set up using the internet, where people worry less about getting recognized by a nosy neighbor. We have no bars here, so meeting pussy is not as easy, and your dating tends to center around coffee shops and motels. (You need to bring your own action both places).
Mr. He, how big were the small towns you were dating in? I don’t think I would realistically move anywhere smaller than a couple hundred thousand people… unless maybe it were Hualien or Kenting, but I gather neither of those is exactly overflowing with well-paid ESL jobs.
I’ve lived in small towns in the US, and while I think there are definite advantages, I’m a big-city guy at heart. The fact that the girls are less conservative there… well that doesn’t hurt.
Taichung has three major universities and is surrounded by various satellite towns from where come it’s sales assistants, junior accountants and waitresses. Most of them are living outside of the family umbrella for the first time in 20-something years.
I’m not telling you these girls are easy prey, but that there are plenty of young girls there who are ready for something different. As a young single foreign guy, you’d have to have two heads and for both of them to be butt-ugly to end up lonely there.
Like most foreign guys that come to Taiwan – the biggest problem you’ll probably face is that girls here who speak a high level of English have standards.
There’s an eye-popping plentitude of lurvaceous lamei in every nook and cranny from top to bottom of Taiwan.
If you function as much as ten percent normally, you’ll surely never want for a date. Even at less than ten percent, you’ve still a fair chance of getting lucky.
Then why is it that the girls who speak a high level of English are so much “easier” than girls who don’t speak English?
White girls are “easier” to get than Taiwanese girls - so you’re saying that white girls have no standards? Your average Taiwanese girl is conservative, lives with her parents, and is somewhat xenophobic and will prefer her “own kind” over weirdo waiguoren. Well, at least in Tainan the Taiwanese girls are like that, but Tainan is also the most conservative and fiercely nationalistic city in Taiwan. Taipei is much more cosmopolitan and it’s a zillion times easier to find a girlfriend there. If you’re living in small town Taiwan - forget it! Kaohsiung, Taichung, and Taipei (including its vast stretches of suburbs in the county) are your only choices. But since those are where 90% of the population lives, you should have no problems. Don’t be foolish enough to take a position in pig farmer country in Yunlin County or the mountainous wilds of Nantou or the fishers of Penghu and you should be fine.
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Buttercup, let’s put this another way: if a person were homosexual and asking where in Taiwan where they would find a bit of tolerance and a dating scene where they could comfortably meet other gays/lesbians, you’d consider that a reasonable question, yes? It’s the same with het guys coming to Taiwan. They want to know where they can go where the girls aren’t so xenophobic and racist against white guys (and black guys, who have it worse) that they won’t even get a second glance. Wanting a bit of a social life with the opposite (or same) sex isn’t necessarily sexist. It’s just human. Who wants to be lonely and forced to endure months of unnecessary celibacy?
[quote=“dong bu ting”]I get the impression that in Taipei there are lots of clubs, lots of girls interested in foreign guys, and that it’s generally quite easy to get out and meet a lot of potential girlfriends. In a smaller city I guess there wouldn’t be so many clubs, and maybe the general English proficiency is lower, too? (I want to learn Mandarin as much as possible, so that’s not necessarily a bad thing)[/quote] You want to learn Mandarin and you also like to have some romantic relationships, so maybe Taipei “county” or Taichung city are the best choices. The expense is lower there and you have less problems to find English speaking girls who can help you with Mandarin (you don’t want a high level English speaker who can communicate with you anyhow, it doesn’t help you to learn Mandarin much, but you don’t want to struggle in daily life/ dating eiither).
My meaning as far as girls who speak a high level of English is that they have probably spent some time abroad, therefore recognize a lot of you from the other side of the counter. I don’t believe the three or four Chinglish speaking skags at last call typify the kind of girls I’m referring to.