Taiwan just (slightly) relaxed Dual Citizenship Rules

Using MoDA’s new MyData website I was able to get my certificate of entry and exit dates (入出國日期證明書) pertaining to my ARC from NIA. On this official NIA document there is no trace of my US nationality to be found. I am now quite confused how HHR was able to look up entry/exit dates of both passports when I didn’t volunteer my other passport info.

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So the sheet only shows single nationality and a single passport? Does it also contain your US passport entry/exits?

Then they can’t legally prove u have another passport.

Nothing can stick tbh

Yes only entry/exit pertaining to my ARC nationality and no mention anywhere of second nationality. That being said he definitely knew my entry/exit on the other passport in detail so he was able to look it up

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The problem there is that the process would take much longer than the 12 month deadline to submit proof of renunciation. They could get the process started, and would then have to reapply for naturalization from scratch.

If you never showed your passport to customs, could you have used it for airport check in? May have been collected from the airlines by Taiwan’s Advance Passenger Information System (APIS) or Advance Passenger Processing (APP)

true that, but at the same time not much of a loss as no renunciation. a very little application fee at most

They’d probably need to gather all the documents again as the documents would be too old and pay all the associated fees associated with that process.

I still see it as worthwhile. Might consider doing it when I’ll reach that point. Not yet eligible for naturalisation.

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Myself and many others would be earnestly following that saga. Would be super interesting and entertaining. :popcorn: If you get approved, it would also set a precedent that would inform future efforts to change the law. But a denial would have the inverse effect.

A denial would just reiterate the current discriminatory position, don’t see as a negative effect. Just no effect Tbh.

Or, maybe, they’ll straighten up and ask all TW citizen to choose and keep 1 nationality only.

Good gamble for equality though

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Entry and exit record is from immigration. Of course they have records of what passports you used to enter as they are scanned and entered into records. Just because it’s not listed on the paper given to you does not mean immigration do not have a record.

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Good luck with that lol

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She is certainly not the norm

I wonder if she has Taiwanese citizenship ?

Nvm she did say she has Taiwanese citizenship

Now if both her parents are not Taiwanese I wonder how she managed that

Or one of her parents is Taiwanese and she’s born after 1980 then it’s automatic

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Think I remember her brother’s interview. He talked about it in 6:08

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Not sure I understood, but I am currently APRC

As such do you not have to declare your worldwide income in Taiwan?

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Seems the father renounced and included his children when naturalizing.
Anyway they are ROC citizens not foreigners living in Taiwan. Immigrants born and raised and citizens. As local as you can get.

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To answer my own question: I called the NIA, and they claim I don’t have to redo the FBI and health exam, but the last time I relied on a verbal claim from an NIA officer that didn’t even want to share his name (which was kinda sus), my ARC application was unnecessarily delayed.

With that, can anybody that has firsthand experience of getting their permanent residence card confirm the above, please? Thanks!

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The rule for APRC is that if staying less than half the tax year, they don’t have to declare their worldwide income if it’s not Taiwan sourced. But for any Taiwan sourced income, there is the fixed withholding rate.