Taiwan Just (slightly) Relaxed Dual Citizenship Rules.


#442

In other words, we now have a problem of fake fake marriages.


#443

It doe snot solve the problem of your spouse holding the winning card of being able to accuse you anytime down the line. I wonder what other recourse, aside from regaining nationality, does an accussed party stand. A common sense statue of limitations would also be helpful, say, 20 years? even 10 years?

EDIT:
Here it says the proposal says 5 years. I wonder in the case mentioned, why didn’t they divorce normally? Why did he claim it was a shham marriage AFTER two children? I do knwo many Taiwanese divorce to protect wife and kids from collectors. Thought that law had been amended too.

KMT Legislator Lin Li-chan (林麗蟬), an immigrant from Cambodia, made the remarks at a news conference at the legislature, which was also attended by a Chinese woman, surnamed Yang (楊), who had her Republic of China (ROC) citizenship revoked on the grounds that she and her former husband had been involved in a sham marriage.

Yang and her Taiwanese husband were married in 2003 and have two children, but her husband claimed their marriage was fake in court hearings for a criminal case he was involved in to protect his wife from his mounting debt, Lin said.

The Ministry of the Interior later cited part of the court ruling where the couple declared their union to be a sham as the basis of rescinding Yang’s citizenship, Lin said.

“According to Taiwanese law, aspirant immigrants are required to renounce their original nationality before they can be naturalized … with their new citizenship tied to their marriage,” Lin said.

The laws are in dire need of amendments as they fail to lay out a clear follow-up process for immigrants who lose their citizenship because of failed marriages, which results in an increase in the number of stateless people, she added.

“Our laws do not even factor in these people’s children and other humanitarian aspects,” Lin said, adding that the government does not deserve to call itself a protector of human rights until it addresses the problem.

Following an amendment to the Nationality Act (國籍法) in 2016, a person’s ROC citizenship would not be revoked if more than five years have passed since their naturalization, but the time restriction does not apply to those found by a court to have colluded in a fraudulent marriage.

National Chengchi University associate professor of law Bruce Liao (廖元豪) said regardless of whether a marriage was fraudulent, what the government should consider was whether to continue linking marriage and citizenship.

“Systematically speaking, we should at least wait until immigrants regain their original citizenship before rescinding their ROC citizenship to avoid rendering people stateless,” Liao said.

Department of Household Registration official Chen Tzu-ho (陳子和) said the five-year statute of limitations, coupled with a mandatory panel review prior to citizenship revocation, were incorporated to the act’s latest amendment to protect the rights of foreign spouses.

However, a panel review is not needed if the rescission is based on a court ruling, Chen said, adding that many countries such as the US, Singapore and South Korea have put in place more stringent regulations to tackle fraudulent marriages.


#444

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#445

In Belgium they can do that too, but than the other party is also involved and can be punished by law for aiding. Recently they started taking away nationality for people involved in criminal cases and terrorism.


#446

So, today’s paper:

TV host, academics among new citizens.

“The ministry’s Household Registration Administration said that the 10 new citizens could apply to the National Immigration Agency for residency as a citizen without household registration data (NWOHR edit), adding that they would receive their identification cards at their local Household Registration Office.”

“NWOHRs are not entitled to obtain National Identification Cards. Those who have resident permits in Taiwan receive Taiwan Area Resident Cards. In order to receive NICs, they must first attain household registration in the Taiwan Area.”

Anyone has a clue how this works?


#447

Here’s Rifat Karlova’s (one of the new dual citizens) interview with Tom Cruise for your viewing pleasure (for those who’ve never heard of him):


#448

Kind of old, but I couldn’t find her referenced on this thread.


#449

I think she was able to qualify under the fun bags category. :grin::grin:


#450

According to the article: “…however if you’re the rare person with multiple nationalities (who are you Jason Bourne?), you just have to give up one.”

So then, in light of the above, what exactly is the point of giving up your original citizenship?


#451

I guess, “they would receive their identification cards at their local Household Registration Office” means they would make their household registrations and get their ID cards.


#452

After getting naturalized, you have to stay in Taiwan (including islands under control eg Penghu and Kinmen) for 360 days within a 1 year period or 270 days a year for 2 years or 183 days a year for 5 years to obtain household registration and be eligible for an ID card. Their local household registration office handles this side of the process.


#453

Is the rule applied to those special cases too? Didn’t old posters or fathers get their ID cards soon after approved?


#454

It’s a good question. In the case of the nuns and priests, it looks like they were subject to an extra special process and given automatic full national with household registration process as their cases were handled directly by high-level government officials.
Whereas the 10 cases in this article are subject to the same process that every other naturalisation candidate must follow with the exception that they are exempted from the renunication requirement.


#455

So, in very special cases, they can skip NWOHR. Usual High-Level Professionals can keep their original nationalities, but need to follow the normal procedure?


#456

Unusually-high-and-recognised-as-such-by-the-government professionals have the privilege of being subject to a slightly modified naturalization procedure where the renunciation requirement is exempted but is otherwise the same as the process the average English teacher who wants to naturalize must follow.

One thing to consider is that with another passport in your pocket, as long as it’s a relatively good passport, you do have the choice of using it for travelling/living abroad. You can be a NWOHR for as long as you like, you can keep renewing the TARC and the open work permit, there’s technically no restriction on how long you can keep the NWOHR status for. Whereas those who have to renounce, the NWOHR status is the only status they have, they have to apply for visas to go to pretty much anywhere, so they’re inevitably stuck in Taiwan for at least a year. Which will most likely suit most people anyway, but these guys and girls who have that other passport in their pocket have that option if they need to move around often. Most will most likely just stay in Taiwan and get the full passport and ID card anyway though.


#457

Why would the put a breastfeeding photo for this article :face_with_raised_eyebrow:


#458

Clickbait. Absolutely no other reason. Just Google her name and see hundreds of flattering pictures of her. Not that this pic is unflattering, just completely baffling as to why it was the one chosen.


#459

Interesting twist to this story…

Seems a bit unclear, however. Maybe he will just miss one game for a no-show? The title makes it seem as though he was cut from the team.


#460

There’s no way he was dismissed. He’s by far the best player in the side. Sounds like the coach is playing mind games.


#461

Just another example of backwards/backwater Taiwan sports authorities doing what they do best. The bullshit is seriously endless, you can enjoy here: