Yes a friend of mine did this on my advice. He changed his ARC from his NZ citizenship to his Canadian citizenship and renounced that. This has already been discussed on the threads in this forum.
It’s relatively easy for me. You asked a question. From a democratic standpoint, I think it is unfair and against the democratic value of equality. It isn’t a wail, it’s a stance. Just because I have it easy doesn’t mean I don’t want to stand up for others that don’t have it so easily. I do this by talking to politician friends about these issues and the other issues that are important to me when I have free time.
I think in the context of what it means to be democratic, I think this law is undemocratic.
Since foreigners also face quite a few weird restrictions and glass walls, citizenship is an easy way to tear those down. Perhaps there would be less appetite for citizenship if we were given an easy way to enforce equal treatment.
In Ontario, there is a law that says anyone 21 and under cannot have ANY alcohol in their system when driving, even when fully licenced. I get the intention, but I think it unfairly targets young people, when a law stating for the first x number of years cannot have any alcohol would have a similar effect and not be discriminatory. I think it’s undemocratic that they targeted an age.
Probably up to around 2013, 2014 I could sometimes get a weekend table for 4 in like 20 minutes. After the Glendale and Costa Mesa locations opened, it became much better known and waits skyrocketed and there was no way in hell to get a table without a huge wait on weekends.
We’d always roll down to dumpling house (right down Baldwin) when we didn’t want to wait.
That’s a fair dinkum opinion. But one’s opinions do not altar the citizenship laws of any country. I’ve written many times I would like it if they allowed people to naturalize without renunciation. But we are cursed with choices in life, like moving to Taiwan in the first place, some of us chose to become citizens knowing we cannot get PR or resume citizenship if we choose to renounce. Taiwan gives you a choice which is democratic, renounce and enjoy citizenship or do not and enjoy ARC JFRV APRC Gold Card or whatever.
Citizenship for all we cry… yes yes but the bureaucrats in government are not of that opinion to make changes. Now you being Italian should know about how bureaucrats work in a democracy. Italy is famous for how it’s government officialdom works. Also being democratic Italy changes governments on a regular basis, more so than most other countries.
Well all have our sentiments about citizenship laws Mr Marco but sentiments are often emotional. Citizenship, well it’s just a piece of paper. Now in the 35 years I’ve been here there have been some changes, and everyone knows changes come slowly if they come at all.
Seven years residency on an ARC when I naturalized. I was in the system where you had to renounce first then naturalize and ended up stateless for nearly a year as some lazy official lost my application and could not be bothered to look for it. It had fallen of a table is all.
Then the law changed to three years for those married to ROC citizens and five years for those who are not. I think I’ve been cheated.
Of course I did try to set a precedent an have Australia refuse my renunciation application, but woe is me, Australia saw fit to toss me to the wind. I failed in that mission to get dual citizenship by being refused a renunciation. Woe betide me.
Then came along changes that allowed people with special skills to naturalize without renunciation or go through having a Taiwan national passport and Tarc. Straight up HHR and ID card. It’s not fair.
I’ll probably be deceased before they change the law to allow dual citizenship without renunciation. Such is the way of life. For me citizenship was a choice I made to live here in Taiwan. Yes I have other foreign passports of convenience. All very nice so I can avoid paying visa fees for my trips to Philippines. That’s the only reason I have those foreign passports of convenience.
Life has it’s quirks. When my son moved to Australia he got a full unrestricted license in the ACT. Then he went to live in Sydney in NSW and young people have strict restrictions on licenses. My son did not have those restrictions. So unfair lol.
Soon enough I will be a cadaver on the slab asking where will the medical students tickle me.
In life there are always those who have less than others. Some will be favoured with more fortune in life. In the meantime here we are sitting here waiting for things. Sometimes I wonder what tomorrow brings… Sometimes I think what’s the use of changing things lol
I have a good friend has UK and Maltese citizenship. His Taiwanese wife got Maltese citizenship without ever having stepped foot in Malta just by being married to a Maltese citizen for 5 years. He will also apply for ROC citizenship doing the renunciation and resumption of his UK nationality.
Sure, but we’re currently on a forum expressing our opinions. That’s the point of a forum.
Sure. But at the same time, our status provides us with many glass ceilings unbefitting of a democratic country.
I can get that, but that was then and this is now. I recognise that I won’t get to enjoy it but I want others behind me to enjoy it.
But going back to this, talking about it can increase awareness and create or contribute to the conditions for change. Helping Australians, Brits and Italians, and other people make a mockery of the law is one thing I do to contribute to those conditions.
Another is by talking about it to people, to locals, to politicians I know. It’s campaign season. I will be out there talking to as many politicians as I can.
I know one thing. I can just say well here are my cards, but I have made the decision to change those cards however I can. Part of that is going to be talking and raising awareness…
So… I remain committed in doing what i can to change this. Because A) I want it, regardless of whether or not it affects me and B) because I believe it’s undemocratic as is.
I’m not doing this for me. Not doing anything and hoping for change is not going to bring about change. I take action and part of that is raising awareness.
If I don’t throw basketballs, how will they go into the net?
Yup. I have lost interest in talking to politicians. We do, as my son likes to tell me, live our lives to the cards life dealt us. I welcome you all to go and battle the government to make those changes. Me… citizenship… I guess I was just in it for myself. Not really too bothered if people become citizens or not. For those that want to I have helped many through the process. Nowadays really quite simple ( unless you leave Taiwan and try to do it from abroad )
It’s not in my nature to just simply play the cards I have. I always want better cards and I will get those better cards. The people that have the power are the MPs.
Gotta keep hounding them for what you want. The olds here do it all the time.