Taiwan, Province of China (Google Maps says)

Okay that’s just flakey. How do you expect any State on the planet to take Taiwan seriously if the leadership goes,

“ROC is dead, I believe in ROT, I have no documents or proof of this ROT, but that is the State I am President of…”

:laughing:

TI the politics of the delusional.

[quote=“ac_dropout”]Okay that’s just flakey. How do you expect any State on the planet to take Taiwan seriously if the leadership goes,

“ROC is dead, I believe in ROT, I have no documents or proof of this ROT, but that is the State I am President of…”

:laughing:

TI the politics of the delusional.[/quote]So how do you explain the fact that Taiwan will become a member of the United Nations, WHO, and the Tufty Club as soon as it changes its name from ROC to Taiwan ? You have to be delusional to think that the PRC, and the international community, will have the same attitude whether this island called the Republic of China, the Repulic of Taiwan, or the Republic of Bob. Same thing with the United Kingdom, how can it represent the needs of the English, Welsh, Scottish or Irish with a name like that ? No wonder the UK is a pariah when it spends its time running itself instead of constantly arguing over what to call itself, and wasting time in parliament discussing laws when they could be throwing chairs at each other.

bgm, what is the TUFTY club?

I highly doubt this is true. If ROC changes its name to ROT, while the PRC is as influential as it is today, then ROT will also not be allow admittance into the UN, WHO, etc. etc.

However, if you are using the possibility of ROT as a guage to PRC world influence. Then yes there are scenarios where the decline of the PRC would lead to a possible ROT and TI.

TI individuals usually have the logic backwards. They believe that if there is an ROT then TI is achieved. That is incorrect. It reality is if PRC declines then TI can be achieve under either the name ROC or ROT.

That’s the geopolitical reality. The local reality is that while there are Nationalist within ROC population, TI in terms of renaming ROC to ROT will never become a reality.

…I think the actual article says it FAR better than I can, he he he…

Taiwan huffs and puffs at Google Earth

We’re a country, godammit

By Lester Haines

Published Tuesday 4th October 2005 12:49 GMT

Taiwan has become the latest, er, country to go whining to Google Earth - not because the entertaining online service reveals high-res pics of air bases packed with black helicopters, but because those tiresome Americans insist on calling it “a province of China”.

Oh dear, oh dear. A suitably indignant Taiwanese government has therefore asked Google to correct the outrage to read the Republic of China - despite the fact that, as Reuters notes, the island of 23 million souls is “recognised by only 26 states in the world and has no seat at the United Nations”.

Foreign ministry spokesman, Michel Lu, explained: “It is incorrect to call Taiwan a province of China because we are not. We have contacted Google to express our position and asked them to correct the description.”

Google has maintained a stony silence on the matter, presumably while it tries to work out a solution which will please both the Taiwanese and the hosts of the (lucrative, burgeoning, inviting) Chinese internet search business opportunity market.

No doubt good sense will prevail, with Google siding firmly with Beijing and threatening to invade Taiwan if it attempts to declare itself a sovereign state while taking the intermediate measure of downgrading all existing satellite images of the island to “developing world lo-res” - a fate reserved for only the mostly lowly of nations/provinces* (delete according to political taste).

theregister.co.uk/2005/10/04 … gle_earth/

I’m sure China has much better sat pictures of Taiwan than anything on Google Earth.

I don’t like that guys condescending attitude in that article. Seems he’s mocking Taiwan…and mildly siding with China. It really disgusts me when someone would choose corrupt, ignorant, evil China over Taiwan…in any way shape or form. China’s government is a very small step up from the Warlords in Africa who exterminate whole towns…a very small step up.

Delete me

So, then, why does it have a 省長? Why do people say 全省?

Actually, it doesn’t. One of the new premier’s decisions was to not appoint a provincial governor. Just remebered seeing this one provincial government official on one of the local news shows vowing to keep up the hard work despite the lack of a leader and a budget. Quite funny. 全省? Old habits die hard, I guess.

It looks like Taiwan’s successful protest to Google bore some additional PR fruit.

[quote]Press Release - 25 January 2006
Free Tibet Campaign deplores Google censorship of Tibet

Free Tibet Campaign deplores the announcement by Google that it is to capitulate to political pressure from China and provide a web-based search engine for the Chinese market that will prohibit access to information about Tibet and other sensitive political issues, such as the protests in Tiananmen Square in 1989. Google’s rivals Yahoo! and Microsoft already censor their sites in accordance with Chinese government wishes.

“With this move Google’s motto ‘do no evil’ is in smithereens and - through its collusion - Google is endorsing censorship and repression”, said Alison Reynolds of Free Tibet Campaign. “This also further contradicts those political leaders who attempt to convince us that foreign business can change China for the better: here is just one more example of where China has changed foreign business for the worse.”

Free Tibet Campaign has already protested to Google about its service ‘Google Earth’, in which the word Tibet is not recognised (‘Lhasa, Tibet’ produces no results in the search engine, where ‘Lhasa, China’ is accepted). A protest from the Taiwanese, who objected to Taiwan being described as a ‘Province of China’ prompted a climb-down by Google, and the contentious words were removed.

“The first point of Google’s philisophy is ‘focus on the user and all else will follow’”, added Ms Reynolds. “Clearly, with this decision, Google is putting the wishes of an oppressive regime first!”[/quote]

If only Google would free Hawaii and Puerto Rico from the USA as well in their do no evil quest.