Made me chuckle.
Worth a watch. A bit off-topic… but it really bothers me they go on about Taiwan independence and then flash an ROC flag. Make up your minds, guys.
I really can’t figure out how NMA earns money, btw.
Somebody posted it into their facebook a couple days ago, I gotta admit I loved it, although the animation is way too cheesy (as expected from NMA). The guy looked foreigner to me from some reason at first (watched it in my cellphone though).
[quote=“Hokwongwei”]
I really can’t figure out how NMA earns money, btw.[/quote]
THIS! 2 things; maybe just because they cartoonize polemical news like the topgear scandal.Or they came up with the virtual environment/engine that could be sold/licensed to video game programmers.
[quote=“Hokwongwei”]Worth a watch. A bit off-topic… but it really bothers me they go on about Taiwan independence and then flash an ROC flag. Make up your minds, guys.
I really can’t figure out how NMA earns money, btw.[/quote]
I find darn kids born after 1985 are particularly prone to ignorance on what the ROC flag represents. It’s as if the brain wash is so perfect by their time of growing up, while the ferocity of the struggle for democracy had waned in comparison, they are either really blue, or they think Taiwan should be a country, but can’t see what the ROC or KMT represents for Taiwan’s struggle for sovereignty.
I’m pretty sure the rapper dude is mixed. He looks a lot like a friend of mine whose dad is American and mom is Taiwanese.
Taiwanese youth are extremely confused about their identity. They don’t really have any direction to go and they have not been given the ‘critical tools’ from education or society or media to help them figure out things.
They also, to be fair, have to worry about getting ahead in a bad economy and finding a path for themselves.
That flag should have been junked years ago as a foreign occupation symbol but yes people are ignorant of their own history. Waving it around at foreign events…it’s all a bit weird.
Funny!!!
It sounds like they didn’t have enough fully Taiwanese references to fill the length of the song.
FamilyMart? Really? Do they mean like the ones that litter the streets in Korea, too?
I agree young Taiwanese are very confused about their identity but I disagree the flag is that much of an issue. Lots of symbols are reinterpreted and basically stolen from other contexts. What I wish is that the ones who support Taiwan independence, and that is the majority, would actually align themselves with the party that agrees with them. This nonsense of being neutral, or forming a third way, just keeps the anti-independence forces in power.
[quote=“ehophi”]It sounds like they didn’t have enough fully Taiwanese references to fill the length of the song.
FamilyMart? Really? Do they mean like the ones that litter the streets in Korea, too?[/quote]
meeeh, true, I could think of more references myself… but then again it’s NMA.
And yeah FamilyMart’s are around all Asia, and 7’s around the world, but the fact that you can just buy some beer and stay outside these places to chug it up just chilling is pretty Taiwanese to me (reference to the activity, not to the corporate)
[quote=“Pein_11”][quote=“ehophi”]It sounds like they didn’t have enough fully Taiwanese references to fill the length of the song.
FamilyMart? Really? Do they mean like the ones that litter the streets in Korea, too?[/quote]
meeeh, true, I could think of more references myself… but then again it’s NMA.
And yeah FamilyMart’s are around all Asia, and 7’s around the world, but the fact that you can just buy some beer and stay outside these places to chug it up just chilling is pretty Taiwanese to me (reference to the activity, not to the corporate)[/quote]
Well I have been on 7-eleven more often the last 10 months here than the 10 years before that in Texas. ATMs, packages pick up, slurpee, midnight sushi, paying bills.
[quote=“TexMex”][quote=“Pein_11”][quote=“ehophi”]It sounds like they didn’t have enough fully Taiwanese references to fill the length of the song.
FamilyMart? Really? Do they mean like the ones that litter the streets in Korea, too?[/quote]
meeeh, true, I could think of more references myself… but then again it’s NMA.
And yeah FamilyMart’s are around all Asia, and 7’s around the world, but the fact that you can just buy some beer and stay outside these places to chug it up just chilling is pretty Taiwanese to me (reference to the activity, not to the corporate)[/quote]
Well I have been on 7-eleven more often the last 10 months here than the 10 years before that in Texas. ATMs, packages pick up, slurpee, midnight sushi, paying bills.[/quote]
I dream of them darn things! one next to me everywhere i live -_- but only in Tw you’re allowed to just chill and loiter outside it while drinking what you just bought…on another note… the big bite hot dogs taste eerily similar in America and Taiwan… :loco:
LOVED IT…
So you are saying that the majority of Taiwanese support DPP but are too stupid to put their cross on the right spot on election day? Have you not understand the concept of democracy? Maybe the vast majority (like the majority of Quebecois) does not really want independence but likes to challenge Beijing every four years so that Taiwan gets a good deal in any agreement with Mainland China, i.e. ECFA or the Service Pact.
And don’t even try to back your claims up with polls, because they are entirely irrelevant once people cast their vote. There have been polls putting Tsai Ing-wen first a few days before election day in 2012, yet where is she now? Not in the Presidential Office.
So you are saying that the majority of Taiwanese support DPP but are too stupid to put their cross on the right spot on election day? Have you not understand the concept of democracy? Maybe the vast majority (like the majority of Quebecois) does not really want independence but likes to challenge Beijing every four years so that Taiwan gets a good deal in any agreement with Mainland China, i.e. ECFA or the Service Pact.
And don’t even try to back your claims up with polls, because they are entirely irrelevant once people cast their vote. There have been polls putting Tsai Ing-wen first a few days before election day in 2012, yet where is she now? Not in the Presidential Office.[/quote]
The opinions that have been expressed to me ,at least,by businessmen,regarding the DPP are fairly clear. They say that the DPP simply has too many idiots in it,for them to dare voting for them. They like the Status Quo. They do agree,in their hearts with DPP policy ,however they vote with their heads,in spite of very little respect for KMT.I,personally, think that many powerful people in Taiwan,have also invested in Property,and they fear DPP policies will stop the Mainland investors,buying in Taiwan.That is just conjecture,but maybe true?
Yes, as in not being part of Mainland China.
Businessmen and many Taiwanese as a whole would probably disagree with DPP policy when it comes to freedom of movement for capital, goods, services and people across the Taiwan strait. I doubt most Taiwanese would welcome a “republic of taiwan” that demands normal relations with the entire world but heavily sanctions any exchange with Mainland China, even if it were for direct flights or visiting. If you listen to people like Tsai Ing-wen or Frank Hsieh, you kind of get the impression that Mainland China is not that important. Funny thing is that 1 million Taiwanese live in Mainland China for work and business. That number alone shows the importance of cordial relations and open links.
Hence most Taiwanese disagree with these core tenets of DPP ideology. Nobody wants to go back to the years of Chen Shui-bian and constant confrontation. What people want is status quo, which most people believe is best kept through the KMT’s “the noes policy”.
Yes, as in not being part of Mainland China.
Businessmen and many Taiwanese as a whole would probably disagree with DPP policy when it comes to freedom of movement for capital, goods, services and people across the Taiwan strait. I doubt most Taiwanese would welcome a “republic of Taiwan” that demands normal relations with the entire world but heavily sanctions any exchange with Mainland China, even if it were for direct flights or visiting. If you listen to people like Tsai Ing-wen or Frank Hsieh, you kind of get the impression that Mainland China is not that important. Funny thing is that 1 million Taiwanese live in Mainland China for work and business. That number alone shows the importance of cordial relations and open links.
Hence most Taiwanese disagree with these core tenets of DPP ideology. Nobody wants to go back to the years of Chen Shui-bian and constant confrontation. What people want is status quo, which most people believe is best kept through the KMT’s “the noes policy”.[/quote]
No, the DPP seems to have changed regarding their views of economic engagement with China. Frank Hsieh has even visited there recently. They just downplay the importance of China compared to other countries. I personally think that’s a good thing, and even business wise other countries in the region offer huge opportunities too. The DPPs go south policy was actually a good policy even if it was based mainly on politics at the time.
Taiwan needs to sign trade agreements with other countries and get off the obsession with China it’s had for the last 6 -7 years or so.
Actually it was Lee Teng-hui who encouraged a go slow approach to China. Under Chen investment and trade and cultural links soared even if there was some encouragement to diversify. It’s one of the persistent myths that the DPP were anti-China in their economic policy. They simply wouldn’t allow direct flights (though that was more a Chen-faction decision than a party wide policy) but they allowed more investment than ever.
What you are seeing now with the DPP is changes to their cross-straight approach.
The KMT under Ma have been focused on China even as trade is slowing and investment has been growing in other regions.
Both parties have played this politically though ironically gotten the exact opposite results one would expect.
[quote=“Pein_11”][quote=“TexMex”][quote=“Pein_11”][quote=“ehophi”]It sounds like they didn’t have enough fully Taiwanese references to fill the length of the song.
FamilyMart? Really? Do they mean like the ones that litter the streets in Korea, too?[/quote]
meeeh, true, I could think of more references myself… but then again it’s NMA.
And yeah FamilyMart’s are around all Asia, and 7’s around the world, but the fact that you can just buy some beer and stay outside these places to chug it up just chilling is pretty Taiwanese to me (reference to the activity, not to the corporate)[/quote]
Well I have been on 7-eleven more often the last 10 months here than the 10 years before that in Texas. ATMs, packages pick up, slurpee, midnight sushi, paying bills.[/quote]
I dream of them darn things! one next to me everywhere i live -_- but only in Tw you’re allowed to just chill and loiter outside it while drinking what you just bought…on another note… the big bite hot dogs taste eerily similar in America and Taiwan… :loco:[/quote]
Hahaha! They do? I’m always a little shy of buying western food when somebody is watching but I’m gonna give them a try. I remember my wife use to starting with the phrase “In Taiwan 7-11…” and I use to immediately disconnected myself from the conversation thinking like “they really have nothing on her town” but now I realize what she was saying.
Don’t know if anyone else has noticed, but that woman on the video looks severely constipated.