# Taiwan to lift ractopamine restrictions **URL:** \ **Category:** Taiwan Politics\ **Created:** [August 28, 2020, 9:09am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taiwan-to-lift-ractopamine-restrictions/195940 "2020-08-28T09:09:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Whatevah](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Whatevah](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Whatevah)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2020, 3:07pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taiwan-to-lift-ractopamine-restrictions/195940/21 "2020-08-28T15:07:19Z")
Will this lead also to cheaper meat on the shelves? ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Milker](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/dr_milker/32/181996_2.png) [@Dr\_Milker](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Dr_Milker)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2020, 3:09pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taiwan-to-lift-ractopamine-restrictions/195940/22 "2020-08-28T15:09:13Z")
> [@Whatevah](#): > > Will this lead also to cheaper meat on the shelves? Will competition lead to cheaper prices? Of course. ---
**Author:** ![OysterOmelet](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/oysteromelet/32/219695_2.png) [@OysterOmelet](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/OysterOmelet)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2020, 3:24pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taiwan-to-lift-ractopamine-restrictions/195940/23 "2020-08-28T15:24:59Z")
Also I hope Abe’s resignation won’t get in the way. He’s very pro-Taiwan. ---
**Author:** ![OysterOmelet](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/oysteromelet/32/219695_2.png) [@OysterOmelet](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/OysterOmelet)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2020, 2:01am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taiwan-to-lift-ractopamine-restrictions/195940/24 "2020-08-29T02:01:25Z")
> [@Taiwan\_Luthiers](#): > > Is Ractopamine good for making Ractogino coffee? You know those Klingon coffee from star trek… You’re asking the wrong person. I don’t drink cofffee. ---
**Author:** ![Aikaili](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/aikaili/32/100376_2.png) [@Aikaili](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Aikaili)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2020, 2:07am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taiwan-to-lift-ractopamine-restrictions/195940/25 "2020-08-29T02:07:54Z")
I hope more choices too. The selection is limited here. I’d to buy a brisket and other cuts without having to be an importer. ---
**Author:** ![KHHville](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/khhville/32/20061_2.png) [@KHHville](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/KHHville)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2020, 2:07am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taiwan-to-lift-ractopamine-restrictions/195940/26 "2020-08-29T02:07:57Z")
I read that ractopamine cures COVID-19 😄 ---
**Author:** ![OysterOmelet](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/oysteromelet/32/219695_2.png) [@OysterOmelet](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/OysterOmelet)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2020, 2:26am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taiwan-to-lift-ractopamine-restrictions/195940/27 "2020-08-29T02:26:23Z")
Remaining Questions and Thoughts: 1. Will the US and Taiwan sign an official free trade agreement, or just do it informally through the Trade and Investment Framework Agreement? A formal one would go a longer way in giving other countries the guts to do the same. While tariff-free access to the US market is nice, the gains aren’t that huge and the ripple effect of other country’s signing FTAs with Taiwan are more beneficial. We should do it before Trump leaves office, because this administration hasn’t been shy about overtly sticking it to China. Japan has signaled that it would sign one with Taiwan once the US does. UK has also been contemplating one with Taiwan and this might push them over. 2. Japan has voiced its support for Taiwan’s entry into the CPTPP. But Abe is resigning, and he has been a great friend to Taiwan. Whoever his successor is will likely not be as close to Taiwan (reversion to the mean). Currently, the only non-allies Taiwan has FTAs with are New Zealand and Singapore. 3. More FTAs means more foreign investment. 4. Look at Tsai’s legacy if this thing goes through. -Pension Reform -Facilitation of Rise in inward tourism from Japan, Korea, and NSB countries -Balancing the budget and lowering the debt-to-GDP ratio to 31% **-USFTA that raised salaries after a decade-long stagnation** The only thing she has left on her to-do list is to start developing indigenous weaponry. ---
**Author:** ![rooftopclown](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/rooftopclown/32/58063_2.png) [@rooftopclown](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/rooftopclown)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2020, 5:01am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taiwan-to-lift-ractopamine-restrictions/195940/28 "2020-08-29T05:01:35Z")
> [@Dr\_Milker](#): > > As if we’re not getting that in the local meat products already… I’d say they should add a lot more. I’ve been waiting for ages for meat that promotes leanness. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Milker](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/dr_milker/32/181996_2.png) [@Dr\_Milker](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Dr_Milker)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2020, 6:08am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taiwan-to-lift-ractopamine-restrictions/195940/29 "2020-08-29T06:08:08Z")
> [@rooftopclown](#): > > I’d say they should add a lot more. I’ve been waiting for ages for meat that promotes leanness. Maybe if you bump a few lines of ractopamine it’ll have a slimming effect. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Milker](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/dr_milker/32/181996_2.png) [@Dr\_Milker](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Dr_Milker)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2020, 10:53am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taiwan-to-lift-ractopamine-restrictions/195940/30 "2020-08-29T10:53:48Z")
> ---
**Author:** ![Marco](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/marco/32/179744_2.png) [@Marco](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Marco)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2020, 12:54pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taiwan-to-lift-ractopamine-restrictions/195940/31 "2020-08-29T12:54:39Z")
America’s best Secretary of State. ---
**Author:** ![Andrew0409](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/andrew0409/32/69821_2.png) [@Andrew0409](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Andrew0409)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2020, 1:00pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taiwan-to-lift-ractopamine-restrictions/195940/32 "2020-08-29T13:00:03Z")
> [@Marco](#): > > America’s best Secretary of State. You right wing nazi ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Milker](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/dr_milker/32/181996_2.png) [@Dr\_Milker](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Dr_Milker)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2020, 1:00pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taiwan-to-lift-ractopamine-restrictions/195940/33 "2020-08-29T13:00:48Z")
> [@Andrew0409](#): > > > [@Marco](#): > > > > America’s best Secretary of State. > > You right wing nazi Pretty open minded for a Nazi… 😁 ---
**Author:** ![finley](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/57b2e6/32.png) [@finley](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/finley)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2020, 1:13pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taiwan-to-lift-ractopamine-restrictions/195940/34 "2020-08-29T13:13:08Z")
All meat promotes leanness. Just don’t eat it in a bun with ketchup. ---
**Author:** ![Andrew0409](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/andrew0409/32/69821_2.png) [@Andrew0409](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Andrew0409)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2020, 1:14pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taiwan-to-lift-ractopamine-restrictions/195940/35 "2020-08-29T13:14:51Z")
> [@finley](#): > > All meat promotes leanness. Just don’t eat it in a bun with ketchup. Was obesity even a thing before we started farming and not eating as much meat? ---
**Author:** ![finley](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/57b2e6/32.png) [@finley](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/finley)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2020, 1:18pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taiwan-to-lift-ractopamine-restrictions/195940/36 "2020-08-29T13:18:40Z")
I know people argue about that sort of thing, but it’s pretty much impossible to tell because agriculture appeared centuries before written histories. As far as I can tell, obesity was only ever a luxury of the privileged. If you were too fat to move around, you’d either not be able to earn a living or you’d be too slow to outrun the raiders from the next village. Either way, you wouldn’t last long. Back to the topic at hand … I agree it’s hypocritical to keep out American beef when the local meat industry standards are as bad, if not worse. It’s just a little sad that it sends all the wrong signals, ie., business as usual, we can keep on abusing nature until, uh, the next time nature fights back. ---
**Author:** ![afterspivak](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@afterspivak](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/afterspivak)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2020, 1:21pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taiwan-to-lift-ractopamine-restrictions/195940/37 "2020-08-29T13:21:48Z")
Science aside, this is an interesting political manoeuver by Tsai. Think about it: the KMT is in disarray and have just been booted out of Kaohsiung City. The DPP has high approval for the way the central government authorities have handled the COVID crisis. It’s holding a lot of political capital and is willing to cash it in, even if it means alienating part of its base in the south. The last time the party made this kind of measured calculation was with same sex marriage. Yes it cost them some support, but they still won. I suspect a similar sort of calculation may be at play here too. Guy ---
**Author:** ![dan2006](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/ea666f/32.png) [@dan2006](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/dan2006)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2020, 7:48pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taiwan-to-lift-ractopamine-restrictions/195940/38 "2020-08-29T19:48:30Z")
Why does she care, with two term limits. Good time to push unpopular politics when you can’t run again anyway. ---
**Author:** ![OysterOmelet](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/oysteromelet/32/219695_2.png) [@OysterOmelet](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/OysterOmelet)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2020, 8:29pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taiwan-to-lift-ractopamine-restrictions/195940/39 "2020-08-29T20:29:15Z")
Local governments are fighting this change. > **[Local governments may defy move to ease imported pork restrictions - Focus...](https://focustaiwan.tw/politics/202008290013)** > > Taipei and Taichung, Aug. 29 (CNA) Several local governments said Saturday they will fight back against the central government's move to ease safety standards on pork and beef imports from the United States, announced a day earlier by President Tsai... Eat all the American pork with ractopamine you can. Here’s solidarity from the USA. ![IMAG0760](https://forumosauploads-12829.kxcdn.com/original/3X/7/8/7869df731e4a600d944cde69bf35212d5423d881.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![fumarole](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/fumarole/32/64872_2.png) [@fumarole](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/fumarole)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2020, 5:51am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taiwan-to-lift-ractopamine-restrictions/195940/40 "2020-08-30T05:51:16Z")
Looking at the Taiwan press, this is going to be an uphill battle. Any threat or perceived threat to farmers’ livelihoods bring together economic, social and political interests. [Previous page](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taiwan-to-lift-ractopamine-restrictions/195940.md?page=1) [Next page](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/taiwan-to-lift-ractopamine-restrictions/195940.md?page=3)