Taiwanese Teach-a-Me-Engoolish Television Programs

If this is how people teach here, I can see why the population at large is in a mess about language learning. The one to which I linked below airs at 5:00 or 5:30 AM.

Problems (told in the second-person, because I was mentally yelling these at the screen):
[ol][li]That’s a thick Southern twang for an American TV co-host, isn’t it?[/li]
[li]Hey, did you get that word in the English-Chinese word list lightning round?[/li]
[li]Why in the hell would you pick Taiwanese people to do the English dialogue? Could you only hire one foreigner for the program?[/li]
[li]That’s some damned awkward phrasing you’ve conjured up there! You could actually make it better if you didn’t try to cram every term and phrase from your vocabulary lightning round into the dialogue.[/li]
[li]How are Taiwanese people supposed to know what the question and other answers mean?[/li]
[li]To your grammar quiz:[list=1][]No, the latter sentence is grammatically incorrect. Superlative adjectives always demand a determiner for modifying noun phrases, even when the noun is a mass noun.[/li][li]‘Seeing’ is not a noun. It’s a string transformation from a sentence to a noun phrase which prompts the change. You also mess up the explanation on why we wouldn’t use “insist on to smoke.”[/li][li]The culprit in your second “rather than” sentence is ellipsis primarily, not “parallel construction.”[/li][/ol][/:m][/list:o]

Good things:
[ol][li]On YouTube, you could basically copy the Khan Academy model and lecture series, so could rewind and re-listen to crap that you missed. That means that the vocabulary lightning round doubles as a Chinese vocabulary drill![/li]
[li]The translated sentences also work to this effect, so long as you ignore the later F- grammatical explanations as provided by 笨蛋 Jack’s quiz.[/li][/ol]

Rant:
Is it a rule that all language learning materials must contain things like this and inject syntax lessons without any particular coherent reason for their placement? Can’t dialogues be lexically basic, and yet contain more real-life situations, ones that people actually would remember from day to day? Is it so hard to isolate structure and write memorable uses of it, rather than hoping that someone will somehow connect, for instance, eating at a restaurant or some other mundane activity with correct use of interrogative sentence structure? It’s like I landed on the Island of Misfit English Textbooks.

I think many parents here send their children to cram English primarily to impresses others (commonly can’t distinguish between English and Engrish). They’re usually not planning to relocate to an English speaking country or really to communicate in that language. They have Chinese for that.

Keeping up for the Jones.

I didn’t watch the clip, but I would point out that this is titled “English Translation Class (2nd year Vo-Tec School)”, not “English Class”. That may have something to do with assumptions about what people know going in. (But the general assessment of the quality of most English teaching programs – TV and radio – is not something I’ve ever seen much evidence against.)

That was a great dialog. I also got to learn where the computer voices came from.

Here’s another gem of English teaching from Korea:

6:45 The hermit prefers a hoe to a golf club.

Hell, I would prefer a ho to a golf club as well. Make love, not war :wink:

[quote=“Puppet”]That was a great dialog. I also got to learn where the computer voices came from.

Here’s another gem of English teaching from Korea:


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OMFG! I hope the students don’t use that in front of an undercover cop :no-no:

[quote=“PigBloodCake”][quote=“Puppet”]That was a great dialog. I also got to learn where the computer voices came from.

Here’s another gem of English teaching from Korea:

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OMFG! I hope the students don’t use that in front of an undercover cop :no-no:[/quote]

I’m just waiting for some guy in Korea to say, “Your COOOOLA looks good” and get punched for it. :popcorn:

[quote=“Puppet”]That was a great dialog. I also got to learn where the computer voices came from.

Here’s another gem of English teaching from Korea:


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Maybe I have a dirty mind…but it sounds to me like she’s begging for a guy to give her some c*ck

“How much for the cock?” I almost wet myself.

:astonished: Damn! You’re not kidding! Quite the drawl! :laughing:

Not that there’s anything wrong with a strong Southern accent; I just think it may be a bit confusing to Taiwanese learners.

Fortunately, as was pointed out, this is a lesson on how to translate, not how to learn English.

:astonished: Damn! You’re not kidding! Quite the drawl! :laughing:

Not that there’s anything wrong with a strong Southern accent; I just think it may be a bit confusing to Taiwanese learners.

Fortunately, as was pointed out, this is a lesson on how to translate, not how to learn English.[/quote]

I’m at a loss over who would want to study translation at 5:30AM.

:astonished: Damn! You’re not kidding! Quite the drawl! :laughing:

Not that there’s anything wrong with a strong Southern accent; I just think it may be a bit confusing to Taiwanese learners.

Fortunately, as was pointed out, this is a lesson on how to translate, not how to learn English.[/quote]

I’m at a loss over who would want to study translation at 5:30AM.[/quote]

International coke/tweek/speed dealers?

:astonished: Damn! You’re not kidding! Quite the drawl! :laughing:

Not that there’s anything wrong with a strong Southern accent; I just think it may be a bit confusing to Taiwanese learners.

Fortunately, as was pointed out, this is a lesson on how to translate, not how to learn English.[/quote]

I’m at a loss over who would want to study translation at 5:30AM.[/quote]

International coke/tweek/speed dealers?[/quote]

The Korean lady would be happy. International coke is her favorite kind.

Happens when you’re overseas… time zones 'n all…

Happens when you’re overseas… time zones 'n all…[/quote]

But I’m in Taiwan, and the captions are all in Traditional, so I assumed that it was a local program.

[quote=“Puppet”]That was a great dialog. I also got to learn where the computer voices came from.

Here’s another gem of English teaching from Korea:


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LMFAO :roflmao:

Do you have cock? I want cock. Please give me cock.

Maybe she can add these to her lesson:
What color is cock? Cock is black. I want black cock.