I support creating more “illusory” procedural safeguards like miranda, huntley, wade, etc., to make Taiwan’s justice system appear more legitimate to westerners – more money for defense attorneys. Without a public defender system and fighting against unlimited prosecutorial resources, how much money do you think people will pay lawyers before they giveup and plea?
Or is absence or ineffective assistance of counsel a violation of your human rights too?
Before westerners attempt to criticize or reform tw’s human rights protection, they should start with their own country. For example: hrw.org/press/2002/08/usdetainess081502.htm
Maybe Taiwanese will start to care about your human rights when you show Taiwanese some respect and allow them in the UN. Before that Taiwan should continue to treat foreigners the way your people and country treat Taiwan --as if they don’t exist.
Well…is it the Republic of China or the Republic of Taiwan? Does it still claim to be the “rightful” government of China? It’s kind of difficult dealing with a country and it’s people who aren’t quite sure who or what they are.
And BTW, the ROC walked out of the UN on it’s own. Study some history.
Well…is it the Republic of China or the Republic of Taiwan? Does it still claim to be the “rightful” government of China? It’s kind of difficult dealing with a country and it’s people who aren’t quite sure who or what they are.
And BTW, the ROC walked out of the UN on it’s own. Study some history.
Learn to read. I never mentioned ROC. I was talking about the human rights of Taiwanese people
SENATOR CLAIBORNE PELL
"In proposing this amendment, it was my intention to underscore the need for the united states to show its concern for the rights of the native taiwanese who constitute 85 percent of taiwan’s population, but who share in little of the island’s political power. The roots of the taiwanese majority go back some 300 years, and the native taiwanese always have considered themselves to be separate from mainland china. The regime of the mainlanders who arrived only after world war ii has been characterized by severe repression of the human rights of native taiwanese, although there has been some improvement in recent years. Tensions between the native taiwanese and the nationalist government have, not surprisingly, been high as the taiwanese sought to have a greater say in their own government.
In my view, the united states should have been faithful to its adherence to the principle of self-determination by pushing for an independent taiwan after world war ii. that did not happen; but i believe the senate should, in this bill, give some recognition to the plight of the taiwanese majority and the need for the new institute to concern itself with the human rights of this majority."
[quote=“jasonlin”]
Maybe Taiwanese will start to care about your human rights when you show Taiwanese some respect and allow them in the UN. Before that Taiwan should continue to treat foreigners the way your people and country treat Taiwan --as if they don’t exist.[/quote]
But it seems to me that American kindness in welcoming you to go and live in their country, safely away from the threat of those PRC missiles, amounts to a pretty tangible acknowledgment of your existence and some more. Or have your rights been so badly abused since you went there that you almost feel like giving up, heading back to the land of your birth, and putting up with all the shortcomings and dangers that you had thought you were leaving behind when those illusory greener pastures of NY prompted you to go and seek a new life there?
[quote=“jasonlin”] Before that Taiwan should continue to treat foreigners the way your people and country treats Taiwan --as if they don’t exist.
[/quote]
Jason, I read what you wrote. I guess you’ll be real happy to get back to Taiwan…then you can get an Indonesian maid to abuse. Make you feel like a real man for a change, right?
[quote=“blueface666”][quote=“jasonlin”] Before that Taiwan should continue to treat foreigners the way your people and country treats Taiwan --as if they don’t exist.
[/quote]
Jason, I read what you wrote. I guess you’ll be real happy to get back to Taiwan…then you can get an Indonesian maid to abuse. Make you feel like a real man for a change, right?
Do I represent every Taiwanese? What about the other 80% percent of Taiwan’s population?
I love NY. NY is one of the most progressive states when it comes to protection of minority and civil rights. But when other nations (like Thailand, Indonesia, US, etc) just do not respect the human rights of Taiwanese collectively, then Taiwanese should not reciprocate. I never left Taiwan behind and I will never leave Taiwan even if it is under attack
I would if I could…but you see Jason, the President of Indonesia is Megawati Soekarnoputri…a WOMAN. It really does help if you know what you’re talking about.
Jason, should my wife decide to live in the UK, she’ll be a FULL UK CITIZEN in six years, with the right to vote, own a business in her own name, etc. And she won’t lose all those rights should she decide to live elsewhere for more than six months. Nor will she have to renounce her ROC citizenship in order to get a UK passport. How long do I need to wait for that reciprocal treatment from the Republic of China?
[quote=“blueface666”][quote=“jasonlin”]
Why don’t you ask the indonesian president if he has any trouble getting a visa to Taiwan?[/quote]
I would if I could…but you see Jason, the President of Indonesia is Megawati Soekarnoputri…a WOMAN. It really does help if you know what you’re talking about.[/quote]
so it’s a she why can’t you ask a woman? you have gynecophobia?
[quote=“jasonlin”][quote=“blueface666”][quote=“jasonlin”]
Why don’t you ask the indonesian president if he has any trouble getting a visa to Taiwan?[/quote]
I would if I could…but you see Jason, the President of Indonesia is Megawati Soekarnoputri…a WOMAN. It really does help if you know what you’re talking about.[/quote]
so it’s a she why can’t you ask a woman?[/quote]
Because you said “he”. This is another reason why you shouldn’t teach English. Jason, you’re great fun to play with!
[quote=“blueface666”][quote=“jasonlin”]
When UK government reciprocate and recognize Taiwan as a state and allow Taiwan to open an embassy in UK[/quote]
I didn’t know Taiwan had declared itself an independent state. :shock: When did this happen? [/quote]
When UK government reciprocate and recognize Taiwan/ROC as a state and allow Taiwan/ROC to open an embassy in UK
Good to see precisely where you stand. Just as well the government’s of the US, the UK, etc. don’t share your odious attitude. Would have fucked up your law career a tad, eh? Don’t like a country’s foreign policy? Let’s fuck with their citizens, then, every time we get a chance. What a wonderful place the Republic of Taiwan must be.
When UK government reciprocate and recognize Taiwan as a state and allow Taiwan to open an embassy in UK
[/quote]
Before anyone can recognize Taiwan as a state (independent country?), the Taiwanese have to agree with themself what they are, and consequently change their constitution.
But what about the original topic? What happens with the “Blond Bandit”?
It’s called reciprocity nothing personal. Just like US doesn’t like Taiwan’s enforcement of copyright laws, so it places Taiwan on the Special 301 watchlist and threatens taiwan with retaliatory action
