As I said, my wife can become a UK citizen with full rights, etc. after six years in the UK. No reciprocity for me in Taiwan, though, where I’ll always be an alien, no matter how long I live here. I find that very personal indeed.
Anyway, by your logic then, a citizen of, say Chad or Honduras for example, should have no trouble obtaining ROC citizenship. Wrong! However, both those countries recognize the ROC.
Blueface666 has a point. Jason doesn’t!
Jason Lin - What a remarkably stupid remark to make. “Can’t find a decent job in their home country…”. This remark puts you with all the other racial bigots and hicks around the world. Taiwan needs what we have to offer – it doesn’t need you, except for that military service thing. Why don’t you go get a little tolerance and then come back and post?
End of story.
[quote=“Boss Hogg”]
Blueface666 has a point. Jason doesn’t!
Jason Lin - what a remarkably stupid remark to make. “Can’t find a decent job in their home country…”. This remark puts you with all the other racial bigots and hicks around the world. Taiwan needs what we have to offer - it doesn’t need you, except for that military service thing. [/quote]
I doubt you have anything to offer if you actually think telling a person that s/he doesn’t have any marketable skills is racial. So why did you come to Taiwan? Can’t make a decent living at home? Job market at home too competitive? just can’t cut it with the best ? or you have skills that only gullible taiwanese could appreciate?
As I said, Taiwan/ROC and Taiwanese recognize UK as a state, but UK and people in UK do not recognize Taiwan/ROC as a nation. If there is no state there is no citizenship to confer.
The immigration policy you complained of was enacted by the regime which your people turned Taiwanese people over to without their consent after world war II. So don’t get upset if you don’t get any sympathy from the Taiwanese since we have suffered longer than any foreigner in Taiwan. I suggest you take a number (or a couple) and maybe we will get back to you once we have executed those responsible for 228 and other the human rights abuses during the martial law era.
[quote]I find that very personal indeed.
Anyway, by your logic then, a citizen of, say Chad or Honduras for example, should have no trouble obtaining ROC citizenship. Wrong! However, both those countries recognize the ROC.[/quote]
“Personal”… I meant you are not being purposely singled out for unfair treatment… You just happened to one of the members a class that the laws applies to.
If ROC citizens can obtain Chad or honduran citizenship or citizenship of other nations that recognize ROC without renouncing the ROC citizenship, then it is clearly wrong that Chad or honduran citizens cannot obtain ROC citizenship in a similar fashion.
Just a couple of short questions for Mr. Lin here:
(1) Do you think you and your kin should be punished for the genocide and other crimes that your ancestors committed against the original occupants of this land when you immigrated to this island and imposed your alien regime on its people not so many generations ago?
(2) Do you not feel thankful toward the United States and other Western Allied Powers for (a) liberating you from Japanese colonial rule; and (b) enabling you to fend of the Chinese Communists’ attempts to invade Taiwan 50-odd years ago, which would have made you unarguably part and parcel of the PRC?
Just wondering.
What is Jason Lin on? 
New village idiot title to be given to him?
I think it would be a good idea
[quote=“jasonlin”][quote=“Boss Hogg”]
Blueface666 has a point. Jason doesn’t!
Jason Lin - what a remarkably stupid remark to make. “Can’t find a decent job in their home country…”. This remark puts you with all the other racial bigots and hicks around the world. Taiwan needs what we have to offer - it doesn’t need you, except for that military service thing. [/quote]
I doubt you have anything to offer if you actually think telling a person that s/he doesn’t have any marketable skills is racial. So why did you come to Taiwan? Can’t make a decent living at home? Job market at home too competitive? just can’t cut it with the best ? or you have skills that only gullible taiwanese could appreciate?[/quote]
Ha, ha! This is halarious: this guy, Lin, who couldn’t make it as an English teacher (in his own country even) is telling employed, foreign English teachers and other valuable working people they don’t have marketable skills. LOL!
What a loser!
[quote=“jasonlin”][quote=“Boss Hogg”]
Blueface666 has a point. Jason doesn’t!
Jason Lin - what a remarkably stupid remark to make. “Can’t find a decent job in their home country…”. This remark puts you with all the other racial bigots and hicks around the world. Taiwan needs what we have to offer - it doesn’t need you, except for that military service thing. [/quote]
I doubt you have anything to offer if you actually think telling a person that s/he doesn’t have any marketable skills is racial. So why did you come to Taiwan? Can’t make a decent living at home? Job market at home too competitive? just can’t cut it with the best ? or you have skills that only gullible taiwanese could appreciate?[/quote]
The word that you were looking for is RACIST - not racial!
You need a frickin’ English tutor!
Your opinions are racially and culturally biased and are a poor reflection on Taiwanese in general. Your behavior should be admonished - may I suggest a trip out back to the woodshed for good ole pants down ass whoopin’!!! Ask your family to help you out on that one because none of us want to do it because most of your talking comes out of your ass.
gliah.uh.edu/historyonline/china1.cfm
Ever heard of the Chinese Exclusion Act?
"From 1882 until 1943, most Chinese immigrants were barred from entering the United States. The Chinese Exclusion Act was the nation’s first law to ban immigration by race or nationality. All Chinese people–except travelers, merchants, teachers, students, and those born in the United States–were barred from entering the country. Federal law prohibited Chinese residents, no matter how long they had legally worked in the United States, from becoming naturalized citizens. "
gliah.uh.edu/database/articl … m?HHID=419
“During a radio call-in program, Rep. Coble (Republican from NC) said that President Franklin D. Roosevelt was right to send Japanese Americans to internment camps during World War II because “some [Japanese Americans] probably were intent on doing harm to us,” according to the Associated Press. “Just as some of these Arab Americans are probably intent on doing harm to us.” He also noted that the internment was for the Japanese Americans’ own safety.”
asian-nation.org/issues4.html
I’m British, you complete moron. What does your post have to do with me? And what a half-witted attempt to justify your filthy racist spewings. From 1882… blah blah blah… what a load of crap.
In 1882 Britain, you could be transported to Australia for life for stealing a loaf of bread. Are you suggesting that we should still be doing this?
You are nothing more than a racist fool. My wife is far more Taiwanese than you could ever hope to be and she is both furious and extremely embarrassed to see the kind of filth coming from one of her so-called countrymen. You are just a bitter, twisted, hate-filled idiot with a great big chip on your shoulder. Grow up, you pathetic little boy.
[quote=“sandman”]I’m British, you complete moron. What does your post have to do with me? And what a half-witted attempt to justify your filthy racist spewings. From 1882… blah blah blah… what a load of crap.
In 1882 Britain, you could be transported to Australia for life for stealing a loaf of bread. Are you suggesting that we should still be doing this?
You are nothing more than a racist fool. My wife is far more Taiwanese than you could ever hope to be and she is both furious and extremely embarrassed to see the kind of filth coming from one of her so-called countrymen. You are just a bitter, twisted, hate-filled idiot with a great big chip on your shoulder. Grow up, you pathetic little boy.[/quote]
Love ya Sandman
You got balls! 
I agree. You put my feelings into words.
Thanks
Feel free to point out exactly which statement(s) I wrote is racist (if any), otherwise it’s just libel.
Jason Lin, you can’t be serious??!!
Tell us again why you don’t want foreigners to come and work in Taiwan.
[quote=“X3M”]Jason Lin, you can’t be serious??!!
Tell us again why you don’t want foreigners to come and work in Taiwan.[/quote]Where have i said that?
I still think the funniest thing about loser Lin is that he couldn’t get a job as an English teacher. Oh! the irony! 
That’s b/c I don’t want to take jobs away from you since that’s about the only thing you can do for money. so what’s your story? Got no marketable skills at home? Didn’t your parents tell you to finish school?
Actually, I could teach in any place I want (except universities). I only refuse to work at places where the pay is lower than a foreigner.
That’s b/c I don’t want to take jobs away from you since that’s about the only thing you can do for money. so what’s your story? Got no marketable skills at home? Didn’t your parents tell you to finish school?
Actually, I could teach in any place I want. I only refuse to work at places where the pay is lower than a foreigner.[/quote]
Dick
Your presumptions are way ahead of you. I haven’t taught English for many years and after enjoying those several years in the Taiwan business community, I am heading back home in just two weeks time for a nice new job. So, you’re absolutely mistaken on your assumptions.
But you still don’t get it, do you? After the interviewer/business person spent some time with you, s/he either thought a) I can offer this guy a lower wage and he will take it because he’s a chump and if he doesn’t accept, that’s fine because another person will walk in the door right after he leaves; or b) I don’t want this guy to accept the offer, so I will offer him something that his personality can’t accept.
In either scenario, the fact remains clear that the interviewer didn’t want you, get it?
Jason:
[quote][quote]X3M wrote:
Jason Lin, you can’t be serious??!!
Tell us again why you don’t want foreigners to come and work in Taiwan. [/quote]
jasonlin wrote:
Where have i said that?[/quote]
It is not that you spell it out in each post, they just reeks of your bias against foreigners working here, but you have slipped at least once:
[quote]jasonlin wrote:
I have a job. I don’t want foreigners to take jobs away from hardworking Taiwanese who are less fortunate than me (being able to study overseas). Unlike foreigners in Taiwan who only look after their own economic interests, I am trying to change the Taiwanese society. [/quote]
http://www.segue.com.tw/3/viewtopic.php?t=7734
Why do you keep on with you aggressive ranting? You would probably get more sympathy for your case with a more understanding attitude toward the obstacles foreigners meet in Taiwan. The source of your problem is your (Taiwan’s) politicians and constitution, and we foreigners can not, and are not encouraged, to have any meaning about that.
- Do you think it is easier for foreigners to come and work in Taiwan vs. Taiwanese to go and work abroad?
- Do you think it is easier for foreigners to marry, settle down, find a job and live in Taiwan vs. Taiwanes to do the same in other countries?
I think you should focus your argumentative skills on your fellow Taiwanese. We (ignorant?) foreigners can not change anything in Taiwan; that is something you and your fellow countrymen have to do by yourself.
Edit 26. Feb. 2003, 10:30 to link to original source of quote
The Taiwan Relations Act refers to the “Republic of China” as the country that the USA recognized before January 1, 1979. However, that recognition was based on the ROC’s former status as the recognized government of China.
Under international law, there is no right to “move” the government to Taiwan and massacre all the local people who don’t agree with your point of view.
The ROC government has never had a legitimate claim to the “ownership” (or “sovereignty”) of Taiwan and the Pescadores. Hence, it logically follows that Taiwan is not recognized as a sovereign state and it cannot join the UN.
Read the Truman statement of June 27, 1950 – the status of Formosa remains undetermined. Has anything changed in the past fifty years which would alter that?? No, nothing.